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On Jul 10, 8:54�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 9, 11:00 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 7, 8:24?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Jul 7, 9:06 pm, rich...@rmeredith.co.uk (Richard Meredith) wrote:
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> > >>> In article <sba274h0m6sfce2dq2q7nqsrh2lca5p...@4ax.com>,
> > >>> lu...@nofreelunch.us (Free Lunch) wrote:
> > >>>> *From:* Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> > >>>> *Date:* Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:24:39 -0500
> > >>>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:25 +0100 (BST), rich...@rmeredith.co.uk
> > >>>> (Richard
> > >>>> Meredith) wrote in alt.atheism:
> > >>>>> In article <dv3v641nlblt9lrl26j45pnb5v085e8...@4ax.com>,
> > >>>>> lu...@nofreelunch.us (Free Lunch) wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Atheists, theists - what's the difference? They're both equally
> > >>>>>> dogmatic
> > >>>>>>> that what they happen to believe is the one and only version of
> > >>>> the >> truth,
> > >>>>>>> despite a complete inability to prove it - or even put up a
> > >>>> decent >> set of
> > >>>>>>> repeatable and verifiable evidence that supports their position.
> > >>>>>> What rubbish. Atheists say they don't believe in gods. The lack of
> > >>>>>> evidence for gods is sufficient not to believe in them. It is not
> > >>>>>> necessary for atheists to prove that gods do not exist to not
> > >>>> believe >> in
> > >>>>>> them. Do you believe in Thor because you cannot prove he does not
> > >>>>>> exist?
> > >>>>> I don't believe in Thor but that doesn't give me any authority to
> > >>>> insist
> > >>>>> on his nonexistence to someone who does: if someone does, or claims
> > >>>> to,
> > >>>>> that's their business and none of mine. The atheists who have the
> > >>>> marked
> > >>>>> similarity to theists are not those who happen not to share the
> > >>>> beliefs
> > >>>>> of the theists, but are content to let them believe whatever they
> > >>>> want to,
> > >>>>> but those who get in longwinded, dogmatic and frequently
> > >>>>> ill-tempered
> > >>>>> arguments about who is right, despite neither side having any real
> > >>>>> evidence either that they are right or that their opponent is wrong.
> > >>>> Once again, you erroneously equate the lack of evidence that the
> > >>>> theists
> > >>>> have with the lack of evidence that those who reject the doctrine of
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> theists. They are not equivalent. In all analysis of whether A
> > >>>> exists,
> > >>>> it is appropriate and necessary to start with the assumption that A
> > >>>> does
> > >>>> not exist and find evidence to disprove it. You defend silly claims,
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> flakier the better, because there is no evidence that the silly claim
> > >>>> is
> > >>>> false.
> > >>> If a claim is silly then evidence will exist that it is silly. If no
> > >>> such
> > >>> evidence exists there is no justification for describing it as silly.
> > >>> Your argument, therefore, is one of defending prejudice, since you are
> > >>> assuming that the position you are attacking is silly, without
> > >>> evidence
> > >>> that it is anything of the sort.
> > >>> There is an equal lack of evidence that the doctrines of theists and
> > >>> strong atheists are correct; in the lack of such evidence there is no
> > >>> justification for assuming that there is any fundamental difference in
> > >>> the status of a viewpoint supported by faith.
> > >> You are banking on a philosophical context, or approach.
> > >> When we talk about evidence, we are then sure of things or event or
> > >> happening. Anything solid in this world would have the possibility of
> > >> a definition.
> > >> But a god...can you provide a definition and his existence?
> > >> You very well know that a heaven and hell thing are the invention of
> > >> human imagination and yet you believe we should not doubt them?
> > >> And the god is showering this world with diseases, right? Why is that?
> > >> A decent human can have a brain that is full of sense, in search of
> > >> logic but a clouded mind will never be cleared of dogma.- Hide quoted
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> > > Well, yes. We have Jesus Christ, notwithstanding all of the efforts
> > > of atheists to pretend he never existed.
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> > You mean there isn't any evidence he existed and it upsets you that
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> I could care less what atheists do.
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> Then WTF do you reply to us?
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> Smiler,
> The godless one
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I am just being polite.
Robert B. Winn