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On Jul 10, 9:00�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > Alex W. wrote:
> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > > Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all.
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> > Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the
> > subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying to
> > understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in.
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> > Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe,
> > to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal
> > set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to think.
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> > What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to maintain
> > the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason.
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> > Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events moved
> > according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the
> > concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty
> > reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned out
> > to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and
> > impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all.
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> > Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith,
> > belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not a
> > Good Thing for people and civilisations.
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> > But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of
> > necessity be true.
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> > Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the Force
> > of Gravity.
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> > Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no
> > pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that has
> > pragmatic use will do.
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> > If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense.
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> > Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the
> > useless, long past its sell-by date.
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> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no
> problem with that.
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> No atheist could ever lower themself to the level of intelligence you
> display, moron.
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> Smiler,
> The godless one
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Thank you for sharing, Smiler.
Robert B. Winn