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Article #13609Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:13
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:13
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On Jul 10, 5:12 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote: > On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:12:56 +0100, The Loan Arranger > > <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >Antares 531 wrote: > >> Read Job 1 & 2 for some allegorical information on this. God agreed to > >> back off and let Satan run his agenda for a while, the only > >> restriction being that Satan could not destroy the entire creation. > > >Perhaps you should read it too! According to those chapters, God gave > >Satan control only over Job and his household, and only within certain > >carefully-made restrictions. There is absolutely no logical way to read > >those chapters in such a way as to give Satan control over the whole of > >creation. > > >TLA > > An allegorical interpretation is required, of course. > > Job and his household represent those people, throughout the history > of humanity, who are firmly committed to God and try to follow God's > directives. > > Those who robbed Job and killed members of his household are those who > are not committed to God, but have chosen follow Satan. God never > relinquished these to Satan. Satan already had control over these > people. God partially relinquished His people to Satan's program with > the stipulation that they not be totally destroyed. > > Those who came and sympathized with Job represent the people who are > not firmly committed to God, or are not sure of their commitment. > > Gordon So, I see you mentioned a lot of people here. Are they gods or human? And why would god relied upon them? And your god never has the capability to make sure that they followed his directives? Then you wish that we believe your god to be mighty, can do anything, can create this earth/human? Do we look like suckers?
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