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Article #13610Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Loan Arranger
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:14
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:14
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Antares 531 wrote:
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> An allegorical interpretation is required, of course.
That's always a dangerous assertion to make. Too many unjustified
extrapolations have been made from original texts, and then dogma
created around the extrapolations.
To me, it's not allegory at all (in the sense of a fictional story that
represents a greater universal fact), but either:
1) a retelling of a true story of a truly unfortunate but pious man
carried down the oral tradition, with embellishments to turn it into
parable,
or
2) a completely fictional parable.
Either way, I believe the parable was created to demonstrate how a truly
pious person should conduct themselves in adversity. It was sucessful,
too: Job is part of the common coin ("The patience of Job"), which is
exactly the point of the story, a memorable tale passed down the oral
tradition to instruct successive generations.
It's possible to extrapolate it into a general case that any bad things
that happen are Satan's fault, not God's, but fundamentalists in
particular should shy away from anything that's not literally stated,
and theologians in general should be cautious of over-extension.
TLA
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