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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 8, 8:11�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> Steve O wrote:
>>
>> > "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:6dh49mF2hjcqU1@mid.individual.net...
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>> >> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:6dg2m3F2d900U1@mid.individual.net...
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>> >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:7b8ae166-6369-43d9-9a73-74e6975c43c2@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >>>> On Jul 6, 9:42 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>> > On Jul 6, 5:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>> >>> On Jul 6, 11:02?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>> My definition of sin was willful disobedience of God.
>> >>>>> ?Bearing >>>>> false
>> >>>>> >>>>> witness about me would fall under the category of willful
>> >>>>> >>>>> disobedience
>> >>>>> >>>>> of God.
>> >>>>> >>>> In that case you are totally guilty of that exact sin.
>> >>>>> >>>> We have already established by your own definitions that you
>> >>>>> are a
>> >>>>> >>>> sinful person (onkl Jesus is free of sin you said) , and your
>> >>>>> lack >>>> of
>> >>>>> >>>> charity excommnunicates you as a Christian. (you wont talk to
>> >>>>> God >>>> on
>> >>>>> >>>> anyones behalf..)
>> >>>>> >>>> I think you are in deep trouble, dude.
>> >>>>> >>> No, I am fine. I say a little prayer every once in a while 
>> >>>>> >>> about
>> >>>>> >>> atheists.
>> >>>>> >> That one ever get answered? ;-)- Hide quoted text -
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>> >>>>> > Well, I know one atheist who became a Christian.
>>
>> >>>>> Ah nice. I was just such a man. I eventually grew out of it though.
>> >>>>> :-)- Hide quoted text -
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>> >>>> Well, you were just an atheist working undercover.
>> >>>> If you were going back to atheism, you were never really a believer.
>> >>>> Robert B. Winn
>>
>> >>> Every single atheist in this newsgroup started out as an atheist. (so
>> >>> did every Christian too, for that matter)
>> >>> Some of us converted to Christianity from atheism, then back again.
>> >>> I have a two year old who is an atheist, he has absolutely no belief
>> >>> in God whatsoever.
>>
>> >> I'm not sure that counts, seeing as he believes in Santa Claus, the
>> >> Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and the Monster Under The Bed.
>>
>> > Actually, he's also asantaist, abunnyist, afairyist and amonsterist 
>> > too.
>> > He's only two years old, Alex, he doesn't even know what those things
>> > are yet, plus, we're very careful about what sort of fairy tales we 
>> > tell
>> > him anyway.
>> > Besides, kids aren't dumb.
>> > Any parent could see that kids operate on two levels anyway.
>> > On one level, they like the fantasy/monster stories and enjoy being
>> > scared by them, and on another level they are fully aware that it's 
>> > only
>> > make- believe.
>> > They're not stupid but they enjoy the exciting pretence of it all
>> > The only time it becomes stupid is when they carry that over to
>> > adulthood and start believing that the magic stories are real.
>>
>> >> IME, children are naturally credulous.
>>
>> > Naturally trusting, not credulous.
>> > There's a difference .
>>
>> >> We pick explanations that fit the available facts. �If our environment
>> >> acts as if Santa Claus is real and we have no evidence to doubt that
>> >> assertion, we believe.
>>
>> > It all depends on what Mom and Pop tell us, right?
>> > When we're telling them about Jack and the beanstalk, they know we're
>> > not being serious, but still go along with the story.
>> > The problem occurs when we tell them about Jesus walking on water and
>> > raising the dead, and they naturally assume we are being serious about
>> > that, because we always make the distinction either directly or
>> > indirectly between one magic story and the other.
>> > "Now forget about all of those silly magic stories we told you - here's
>> > some REAL magic stories"
>> > The Santa story is simply training wheels for the God story any way.
>> > It amazes me that at my daughters school, she can have science lessons
>> > one minute, where she is taught to examine facts using the scientific
>> > method, and in the next Religious Education lesson straight afterward,
>> > she is told to abandon any critical thinking skills and simply believe.
>> > Why does the education system insist on trying to confuse our children
>> > like that?
>>
>> No problem, provided she realises there is a sign over the RI classroom
>> saying 'abandon reason, all ye who enter here'- Hide quoted text -
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> She is only going to that class so that you will have something to
> complain about.
> Robert B. Winn

What are you talking about?
She has no choice as to whether she attends those classes or not - they are 
part of the school curriculum.
Fortunately, she's a smart cookie, because she still gets top marks in her 
R.E. exams but understands it is all a load of baloney too.

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
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Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence