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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#13649
From: Steve O
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:50
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 8, 10:47 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > On Jul 6, 11:06 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>> On Jul 6, 12:55 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>> On Jul 5, 3:28 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>news:82172b99-aef0-45bd-b941-e2b2fdb67d4d@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 3:36 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 12:07 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>news:b5ef084b-b578-47aa-b9bf-1285e1588579@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>> >>>>>>>> What would you pay for it? I could whip one up for you. I'd make 
>> >>>>>>>> it with
>> >>>>>>>> Judas' image, he gets such a bad rap for someone who was utterly 
>> >>>>>>>> vital
>> >>>>>>>> to the doctrine.- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>>>>> Utterly vital? How was Judas Iscariot utterly vital?
>> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>> >>>>>> Are you being deliberately dumb?
>> >>>>>> No Judas- no crucifixion, no crucifixion - no sacrifice-, no 
>> >>>>>> sacrifice- no
>> >>>>>> redemption from sin.
>> >>>>>> I don't subscribe to your silly belief system but at least I could 
>> >>>>>> work that
>> >>>>>> one out.
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Steve O
>> >>>>> Salvation is through Jesus Christ, not through Judas Iscariot. 
>> >>>>> Judas
>> >>>>> is not going to do you any good.
>> >>>> No Judas Iscariot, no salvation, because no dead saviour served up 
>> >>>> on a
>> >>>> stick for Dad. So, I would've thought that Judas was an important 
>> >>>> figure
>> >>>> in your supposed state of grace.- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>> >>> Well, Judas thinks more like Satan than like God. Maybe that was why
>> >>> you got confused.
>> >> I didn't know you were so familiar with Satan as to know that.
>>
>> >> The plot thickens..
>>
>> >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > I don't have to be familiar with Satan to know that a plot to betray
>> > Jesus Christ came from him, not God.
>>
>> You mean your "god" didn't plan to provide "salvation"? It was a plot by
>> satan?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Satan's plan was to kill Jesus Christ.   So Jesus Christ was
> crucified.   He was resurrectred three days later.
> Robert B. Winn

Is this mainstream Mormon  doctrine or just your own spin on the matter?

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
 
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From: "Steve O" <nospamhere@thanks.com>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:50:03 +0100
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