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Article #13862Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:33
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:33
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<hhyapster@gmail.com> wrote in message news:60a85f66-8c4c-449b-b52f-bf773c5a84df@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 5, 6:17 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:58898c9c-aad4-4d16-8b51-5ee0f0b2a835@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Jul 4, 9:29�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:2491245c-d5d7-4548-a60c-460baa59d9b4@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> Sin is what you think it is. >> >> >> > I think sin is wilful disobedience to God. >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> In that case, I've never committed a sin. >> >> God has never personally told me to do anything, so how is it possible >> >> for >> >> me to disobey him? >> >> > Well, Joesf Stalin said something very similar when he killed 12 >> > million people. Atheists justify anything they do by saying there is >> > no God. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> I don't think you are following the point here. >> I didn't say that there is no God, I said that God has never personally >> asked me to do or not do anything and it would therefore be impossible >> for >> me to wilfully disobey him if I have never once received an order or >> request >> from him. >> So do you agree that I am sinless, by your definition of sin? >> > > Steve, > I think you have presented your points incorrectly. > First of all, being an atheist, we don't subscribe to a god and > therefore we cannot say :"I didn't say there is no god...". There is > no god, period. That's fine, I was making that statement in the context of this conversation only, as in.. during this particular conversation, I did not claim there is no God, contrary to rbwinn's statement. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
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