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On Jul 6, 1:59 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 6, 12:57 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 4, 8:37�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 11:32 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2:57 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> worth considering.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. ?If you think He is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not, ?go ahead and try to prove it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true.
> >>>>>>>>>> Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get
> >>>>>>>>>> over the city wall at Lachish.
> >>>>>>>>> So? I have built several earthen ramps.
> >>>>>>>>> Am I then God?
> >>>>>>>>>> Atheists do not believe in the earthen ramp.
> >>>>>>>>> well firstly that is false, because I do believe in earthen ramps,
> >>>>>>>>> having built many, and I am an atheist.
> >>>>>>>>> And secondly what has the fact that �person B may or may not believe
> >>>>>>>>> statement X, have to do with the existence, or not, of personality Z?
> >>>>>>>> God did not build the earthen ramp. �The Assyrian army did. �God would
> >>>>>>>> have preferred that they did not build it and had left the city of
> >>>>>>>> Lachish and its inhabitants alone.
> >>>>>>> Are you saying that God was powerless to stop them?
> >>>>>> The bible contains enormous mistakes to glorify god yet plainly
> >>>>>> telling us that god is a useless being.
> >>>>>> The early Jews who wrote it were not educated, or might be drunk. Yes,
> >>>>>> more drunk than wake.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>> Well, as you say, if you think God is a useless being, then you will
> >>>>> choose to be with the beings you think of as being useful, other
> >>>>> atheists.
> >>>> So you concede there are many mistakes or untruths in the Bible then?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>> Why does it depend on me?   The Bible is what it is.  If you do not
> >>> like the Bible, read something else.
> >> No answer? I just wanted to know how reliable you thought the Bible was.
> >> I know it to be full of errors and distortions, just wondered what your
> >> position on it was. You seem to think it better than other sacred texts
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> > I think the Bible is very reliable.  The Jews were very meticulous as
> > far as preserving ancient writings.  For instance, the Dead Sea
> > scrolls of Isaiah are a good example of how accurately the Bible was
> > translated.
>
> The Bible was very accurately transcribed - for humans. They did an
> amazing job. Not a perfect job, there are lots of differences between
> the early versions we have, but not bad for a bunch of people.
>
> It's the content that I find even less reliable though, that's what I
> was driving at, and I think you know that.
>
> Much reported as history in the Bible simply never happened. No global
> flood, no special creation, no exodus...- Hide quoted text -
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Well, I think those happened.  I don't think the Song of Solomon is an
inspired writing.
Robert B. Winn