Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Antares 531
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:59

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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:59:50 +1200, BuddyThunder
<nospam@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>rbwinn wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 12:57 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
(snip)
>
>The Bible was very accurately transcribed - for humans. They did an 
>amazing job. Not a perfect job, there are lots of differences between 
>the early versions we have, but not bad for a bunch of people.
>
>It's the content that I find even less reliable though, that's what I 
>was driving at, and I think you know that.
>
>Much reported as history in the Bible simply never happened. No global 
>flood, no special creation, no exodus...
>
Few of those Biblical stories are to be taken literally. Most are
allegory, parable, simile, etc., sometimes based upon an existing
legend. The purpose was to make it possible for a mostly illiterate
people to get the embedded meaning, retain the story, and pass it on
from generation to generation with little drift.

The flood was probably based upon the ancient stories about the
flooding of the Mediterranean basin shortly after the last ice age
ended. The Strait of Gibraltar was breached as the Atlantic ocean
level raised. When this happened the whole Mediterranean basin was
flooded in a very short time...like 40 days and 40 nights. The relics
of those stone walls and buildings that were out in what is now the
Mediterranean are still available for divers to see.

The main point I'm making is that we should not get hung up on the
literary form used in the Bible. We can read it and interpret it just
as effectively as those ancient people could. Neither of us has an
advantage over the other.   Gordon

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