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On Jul 6, 4:26�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:59:50 +1200, BuddyThunder
> <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> >rbwinn wrote:
> >> On Jul 6, 12:57 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 4, 8:37?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 11:32 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2:57 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 4:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth considering.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. ?If you think He is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not, ?go ahead and try to prove it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, there is an earthen ramp that the Assyrian army built to get
> >>>>>>>>>>> over the city wall at Lachish.
> >>>>>>>>>> So? I have built several earthen ramps.
> >>>>>>>>>> Am I then God?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Atheists do not believe in the earthen ramp.
> >>>>>>>>>> well firstly that is false, because I do believe in earthen ramps,
> >>>>>>>>>> having built many, and I am an atheist.
> >>>>>>>>>> And secondly what has the fact that ?person B may or may not believe
> >>>>>>>>>> statement X, have to do with the existence, or not, of personality Z?
> >>>>>>>>> God did not build the earthen ramp. ?The Assyrian army did. ?God would
> >>>>>>>>> have preferred that they did not build it and had left the city of
> >>>>>>>>> Lachish and its inhabitants alone.
> >>>>>>>> Are you saying that God was powerless to stop them?
> >>>>>>> The bible contains enormous mistakes to glorify god yet plainly
> >>>>>>> telling us that god is a useless being.
> >>>>>>> The early Jews who wrote it were not educated, or might be drunk. Yes,
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> >>>>>> Well, as you say, if you think God is a useless being, then you will
> >>>>>> choose to be with the beings you think of as being useful, other
> >>>>>> atheists.
> >>>>> So you concede there are many mistakes or untruths in the Bible then?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>> Why does it depend on me? � The Bible is what it is. �If you do not
> >>>> like the Bible, read something else.
> >>> No answer? I just wanted to know how reliable you thought the Bible was.
> >>> I know it to be full of errors and distortions, just wondered what your
> >>> position on it was. You seem to think it better than other sacred texts
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> >> I think the Bible is very reliable. �The Jews were very meticulous as
> >> far as preserving ancient writings. �For instance, the Dead Sea
> >> scrolls of Isaiah are a good example of how accurately the Bible was
> >> translated.
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> >The Bible was very accurately transcribed - for humans. They did an
> >amazing job. Not a perfect job, there are lots of differences between
> >the early versions we have, but not bad for a bunch of people.
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> >It's the content that I find even less reliable though, that's what I
> >was driving at, and I think you know that.
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> >Much reported as history in the Bible simply never happened. No global
> >flood, no special creation, no exodus...
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> Yes, copying a mistake faithfully does not make the mistake go away.- Hide quoted text -
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Well, that is something atheists have a lot of experience with.
Robert B. Winn