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Article #13928Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:35
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:35
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On Jul 5, 6:23 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:03bf56d3-b444-4a0c-998b-880bcd9a17d9@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Jul 4, 9:35�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >> news:2efb0043-fcce-424b-9881-> > > >> God has never commanded me to do anything at any time. > >> I've never even met the guy. > >> Therefore, I have never disobeyed him. > >> As it is your belief that sin is when someone disobeys God, then I have > >> never sinned. > >> So does that mean I get to go to heaven? > > >> -- > >> Steve O > > > No, atheists like you and Josef Stalin do not accept the atonement of > > Christ for your sins. > > You have already claimed that I have committed no sin, because by your > definition, sin is the wilful disobedience of God > I have never wilfully disobeyed God because I have never once received any > command, request or instruction from him. > If I have never sinned, then I have no sins to atone for, therefore you are > wrong. > > > Therefore you have to pay the penalty for them > > yourself. > > What sins? > How can I pay a penalty for sins I have never committed? > > You haven't really thought this one out, have you? > You are either going to have to disagree that your definition of sin is > wrong, or I have never committed a sin. > Which one is it? > > -- > Steve O > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > B.A.A.W.A. > Convicted by Earthquack, > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence If you can talk logic with this guy, then this world will be peaceful from the beginning.
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