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On Jul 5, 7:49 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 4, 8:42�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >> in alt.atheism:
>
> >>> On Jul 4, 3:03?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>> Alex W. wrote:
> >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in
> >>>>>> the presence of God than with the devils in hell.
> >>>>>> ===========
> >>>>>> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is
> >>>>>> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality ....
> >>>>> No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim
> >>>>> that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent.
> >>>> Which to me indicates you have no idea what sin, or repentance, is.
> >>>>> ==========
> >>>>> Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped
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> >>> Sin is wilful disobedience of God. �Repentance is confessing and
> >>> forsaking sin.
> >> As far as we can tell, God is a human invention. God never told us to do
> >> anything. Sin, therefore, is also a human invention.- Hide quoted text -
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> > So once an atheist enters into sin, there is no turning back from
> > it.   I guess that was why Josef Stalin killed 12 million people.
>
> No, he did that because it was an Omnipotents God's Will Surely?
>
> Unless you subscribe to the Manichean Heresy, whih says that there is an
> equally powerful force of sin,  and it was HIS will ;-)
>
> The trouble with the 'God is Good, God is top dog' theory is that its
> manifestly untrue.
>
> Unless you redefine Good to include Evil, of course..
>
> > Robert B. Winn

Which is where the ever popular "mysterious ways" comes in.  Which is
a de-facto admission they haven't got a clue, and they should stop
trying to tell us how to behave if they can't even figure out their
own damned god thingy.

Al