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On Jul 6, 5:02 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 6, 2:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 6, 12:58 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 5, 2:43 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 8:32 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 11:25 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2:54�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 5:28?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Your claim is completely without support. Since you rely on an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> indefensible claim for the rest of your doctrine, your doctrines are not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> worth considering.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I consider God to be sufficient support. �If you think He is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not, �go ahead and try to prove it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please provide any evidence that any claim ever made about God is true.
> >>>>>>>>>> That's too harsh a test.
> >>>>>>>>>> Ples supply any �experimental method that might be able to *disprove*
> >>>>>>>>>> Gods existence.
> >>>>>>>>>> At least with �potentially falsifiable hypothesis, we are onto
> >>>>>>>>>> experimental ground, rather than vague hand waving and assertions, that
> >>>>>>>>>> have no actual content or meaning.
> >>>>>>>>>> A basic definition of what GOD IS would be a start..- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>> God is an exalted man.  He went through a mortal life the same as we
> >>>>>>>>> are doing.  The Bible makes this clear.  Jesus Christ said that He was
> >>>>>>>>> doing the exact same things his Father had done.
> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> What is your definition of a man?
> >>>>>>>> If Jesus was a man as you and me, we all would be god departing this
> >>>>>>>> life, why the need to be bigotry?
> >>>>>>>> You really are a confused person, don't write when not taking your
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> >>>>>>> You will not all be anything departing this life except a spirit.  All
> >>>>>>> spirits will be re-united with their bodies in the resurrection and
> >>>>>>> will inherit what they were willing to receive.  Those who chose to be
> >>>>>>> atheists will receive the reward of atheists.
> >>>>>> My body probably won't be too flash by that time. Especially if he keeps
> >>>>>> us waiting. And waiting.
> >>>>>> Still, looking forward to that reward, what is it, candy?
> >>>>>> Where is this spirit housed in my body? What is it made of? Can I
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> >>>>> Your spirit is made of spirit.  You cannot transplant it.
> >>>> That's a self-definition. Can you come up with anything... coherant?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>> Well, look spirit up in the dictionary.  If you do not believe in
> >>> spirit, then there is no way to explain it to you.
> >> I looked it up and found lots of vague notions of intermediaries between
> >> body and soul. That kind of nonsense.
>
> >> So there is no meaningful definition of "spirit" in reality? You made a
> >> positive claim about my "spirit", then choosing to define it in terms of
> >> itself. A kind of "spirit is spirit, what's wrong with you" argument.
> >> I'm none the wiser as to what you're actually referring to.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Well, OK.  I could point out a few things, for instance, spirit of
> > anger, spirit of contention, etc.  So what do you atheists do to tell
> > someone is angry, just look to see if their face gets red?  I
> > personally can feel the spirit of the thing.  The way you atheists do
> > it, someone could be having a heatstroke, and you would just think
> > they were angry.
>
> I don't talk about a "spirit of anger", although I see lots of that kind
> of rhetoric on TBN. Unless some (external) consciousness can be
> demonstrated, then it's just a personification of a natural phenomenon.
> That's just what religions do! :-)
>
> Do you believe that something supernatural is occuring when someone is
> angry, that is absent when they simply get heatstroke?
>
> I don't personally have difficulty with telling the two apart, it has
> nothing to do with somehow detecting some "essence" or "force", it's a
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Well, I would not want to be relying on athiests if I ever got a
heatstrroke.
Robert B. Winn