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On Jul 4, 7:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 7:04 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Jul 4, 3:47 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 3, 12:41 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 3, 9:21�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > >> The Loan Arranger wrote:
> > > > >>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > >>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
> > > > >>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus
> > > > >>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They
> > > > >>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
> > > > >>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many
> > > > >>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
> > > > >>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least
> > > > >>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
> > > > >> All the Gnostics said was you didn't need all this doctrine and dogma,
> > > > >> you could 'know' god directly.
> > > > >> \
> > > > >> Which is the sense I suspect they meant it, is of course true.
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> > > > >> Howver that didn;tr sut te Romans, who didn't really care about any god
> > > > >> at all: they wanted unification, ciilization, and pacification, and a
> > > > >> sword in one hand and a bible in the other was perfect: If you could
> > > > >> meld that into whatever local nature spirits the Druids had going, so
> > > > >> much the better.
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> > > > >> There have always been a host of angels, urges and demi-urges and
> > > > >> latterly saints, to paste over the original pagan gods.
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> > > > >> Any you found antisocial, became devils and demons, of course.
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> > > > >> For a so-called �monotheistic religion, there are a lot of powerful
> > > > >> beings in the Xtian pantheon ;-)
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> > > > > What do you mean "all the Gnostics said"?   The Gnostics said that
> > > > > Jesus Christ did not suffer on the cross because he was a God.
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> > > > You should go and check EXACTLY what they said. You do not seem to know.
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> > > >   They
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> > > > > were apostate Christians.
> > > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> > > I know EXACTLY what they said because I have read some of their
> > > writings.  They were very mystical depictions of light, spirits, etc.,
> > > for the most part, all very mysterious,  but their greatest deviation
> > > from Christianity was their belief that Jesus Christ did not suffer
> > > and die because he was a God.
> > > Robert B. Winn
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> > For you and your loony gangs, Jesus was the son of god and now being
> > worshiped by you as god.
> > So, how could he have suffered when pinned in the cross? Or even died?- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Well the Gnostics asked the same thing.  That was why they were
> considered to be apostate Christians.
> Robert B. Winn

Did you notice that when you can't answer a direct question, you turn
to something else?
All I am asking is "Why would a god, worshiped by you, died at the
cross?"
If you answer he was a human, then I ask what happen to his father,
the god?
I am also confused, Jesus is a god, he is also the son of a god, but
all event led to his death showed no god quality. But modern man still
treat him like a real god, but he is not happy to appear.
What a mess !