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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus
>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They
>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many
>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least
>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church.  Fortunately, they were
>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in it.
>>>>>> Why change a winning formula?
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible.  The entire Old Testament was
>>>>> written by the Jews.  The New Testament was written by apostles and
>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
>>>> Paul was most certainly neither.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
>>> decides who the apostles will be.
>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come along
>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this
>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'
>>
>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.
>>
>> I think you should study circular logic.
>>
>> Like
>>
>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
>> Everything I say is therefore True.
>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.
>>
>>   Matthew and John were apostles.
>>
>>> Peter, James,  and Paul were apostles.  Luke and Mark were disciples.
>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
>>> standing in the church.  Modern atheists are the ones who have no
>>> standing in the church.
>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church?
>>
> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church.
> 
>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind heart
>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and,
>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no
>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.
>>
>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well.
>>
>> Sucker.
>>
> I ran against G W Bush.  What did you do, vote for John Kerry?

There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient 
that is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized 
a lot longer, and is called Europe.

I don't you could even name one European politician.


> Robert B. Winn