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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#14086
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:35
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Steve O wrote:
> 
> 
> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
> news:1edcc73f-c01c-4bde-9b08-51aa68b4edb8@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 4, 5:33�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 04:29:48 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >On Jul 3, 10:59�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >> On Jul 4, 12:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > On Jul 3, 5:32?pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >> > 
>>> >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... 
>>>
>>> >> > > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >> > > 
>>> >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... 
>>>
>>>
>>> >> > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more 
>>> miserable >> > > > in
>>> >> > > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell.
>>>
>>> >> > > > ===========
>>>
>>> >> > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the 
>>> smart >> > > > choice is
>>> >> > > > to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality ....
>>>
>>> >> > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists 
>>> >> > > claim
>>> >> > > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent.
>>>
>>> >> > > ==========
>>>
>>> >> > > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the 
>>> god(s) >> > > worshipped
>>> >> > > ... or not, as the case may be.
>>>
>>> >> > Well, there is no sin in heaven. �Maybe that is why atheists do not
>>> >> > want to go there.
>>> >> > Robert B. Winn
>>>
>>> >> This is a big lie invented by you, two in fact, please acknowledge !
>>> >> 1). You are here on earth and not in the heaven, how do you know 
>>> there
>>> >> is no sin there?
>>> >> 2). No atheist has indicated to you that he does not want to go to
>>> >> heaven, and you put word into his mouth.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> >Jesus Christ said that no person will enter heaven who has not been
>>> >cleansed of sin. �All atheists I have conversed with have told me they
>>> >do not want to enter heaven.
>>>
>>> Telling you that heaven does not exist does not mean that they don't
>>> want to go there, merely that they aren't going to waste their time
>>> hoping for a future in the afterlife when there are things to be done
>>> now.
>>>
>>> The afterlife is a fake.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Well, the best one to inform would be Jesus Christ.  Telling me will
>> not do you any good.
>> Robert B. Winn
> 
> For the umpteenth time, we cannot tell Jesus anything.
> If he existed at all, he died nearly 2,000 years ago.
> Apart from an alleged brief visit shortly afterward, he hasn't been seen 
> since.
> How can we tell him anything, huh?
> 

"I can summon spirits from the vasty deep"
"Aye: so can any man, but will they answer?"

(Shakespeare)
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:35:22 +0100
From: The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
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