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Article #14086Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:35
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:35
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Steve O wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message > news:1edcc73f-c01c-4bde-9b08-51aa68b4edb8@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 4, 5:33�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 04:29:48 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>> in alt.atheism: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >On Jul 3, 10:59�pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >> On Jul 4, 12:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> > On Jul 3, 5:32?pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>> >>> >> > >>> >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >> > > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> >> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>> >>> >> > > >>> >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> >> > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more >>> miserable >> > > > in >>> >> > > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell. >>> >>> >> > > > =========== >>> >>> >> > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the >>> smart >> > > > choice is >>> >> > > > to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... >>> >>> >> > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists >>> >> > > claim >>> >> > > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. >>> >>> >> > > ========== >>> >>> >> > > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the >>> god(s) >> > > worshipped >>> >> > > ... or not, as the case may be. >>> >>> >> > Well, there is no sin in heaven. �Maybe that is why atheists do not >>> >> > want to go there. >>> >> > Robert B. Winn >>> >>> >> This is a big lie invented by you, two in fact, please acknowledge ! >>> >> 1). You are here on earth and not in the heaven, how do you know >>> there >>> >> is no sin there? >>> >> 2). No atheist has indicated to you that he does not want to go to >>> >> heaven, and you put word into his mouth.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> >> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> >Jesus Christ said that no person will enter heaven who has not been >>> >cleansed of sin. �All atheists I have conversed with have told me they >>> >do not want to enter heaven. >>> >>> Telling you that heaven does not exist does not mean that they don't >>> want to go there, merely that they aren't going to waste their time >>> hoping for a future in the afterlife when there are things to be done >>> now. >>> >>> The afterlife is a fake.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Well, the best one to inform would be Jesus Christ. Telling me will >> not do you any good. >> Robert B. Winn > > For the umpteenth time, we cannot tell Jesus anything. > If he existed at all, he died nearly 2,000 years ago. > Apart from an alleged brief visit shortly afterward, he hasn't been seen > since. > How can we tell him anything, huh? > "I can summon spirits from the vasty deep" "Aye: so can any man, but will they answer?" (Shakespeare)
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