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Article #14125Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:11
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:11
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On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) > >>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus > >>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They > >>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. > >>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many > >>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make > >>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least > >>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! > >>>>>> TLA > >>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were > >>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact. > >>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in it. > >>>> Why change a winning formula? > >>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >>> The Catholics did not write the Bible. The entire Old Testament was > >>> written by the Jews. The New Testament was written by apostles and > >>> disciples of Jesus Christ. > >> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge > >> was written by a disciple or apostle. > > >> Paul was most certainly neither. > > >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who > > decides who the apostles will be. > > Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come along > years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this > dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them' > > Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that. > > I think you should study circular logic. > > Like > > I. TNP, am actuallyt God. > Everything I say is therefore True. > Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it. > > Matthew and John were apostles. > > > Peter, James, and Paul were apostles. Luke and Mark were disciples. > > Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or > > excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their > > standing in the church. Modern atheists are the ones who have no > > standing in the church. > > Do you realise how little I care about the Church? > Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church. > The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind heart > have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and, > always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no > value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever. > > You probably believed in GW Bush as well. > > Sucker. > I ran against G W Bush. What did you do, vote for John Kerry? Robert B. Winn
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