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Article #14134Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Free Lunch
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:39
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:39
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:29:32 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 4, 3:06�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jul 3, 5:32?pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >>>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >>> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in >> >>> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. >> >>> =========== >> >>> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is >> >>> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... >> >> No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim >> >> that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. >> >> >> ========== >> >> >> Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped >> >> ... or not, as the case may be. >> >> > Well, there is no sin in heaven. �Maybe that is why atheists do not >> > want to go there. >> >> It's more true to say that by removing what you loosely term sin, you >> arrive at a place you loosely call heaven. >> >> However it is only one point on a certain map: there are many other >> places to visit.. >> >> As the Jewish mystics were well aware.. >> >> >Well, for instance, you could visit hell. Why anyone would want to >visit hell, I do not know. No, that is not possible. Hell does not exist.
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