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Article #14135Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Free Lunch
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:42
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:42
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 4, 3:03?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> Alex W. wrote: >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in >> >> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. >> >> >> =========== >> >> >> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is >> >> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... >> >> > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim >> > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. >> >> Which to me indicates you have no idea what sin, or repentance, is. >> >> >> >> > ========== >> >> > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped >> > ... or not, as the case may be.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Sin is wilful disobedience of God. Repentance is confessing and >forsaking sin. As far as we can tell, God is a human invention. God never told us to do anything. Sin, therefore, is also a human invention.
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