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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:21
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The Loan Arranger wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> 
> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
> 
>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus
>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God.  They
>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
> 
> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many 
> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make 
> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least 
> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
> 

All the Gnostics said was you didn't need all this doctrine and dogma, 
you could 'know' god directly.
\
Which is the sense I suspect they meant it, is of course true.


Howver that didn;tr sut te Romans, who didn't really care about any god 
at all: they wanted unification, ciilization, and pacification, and a 
sword in one hand and a bible in the other was perfect: If you could 
meld that into whatever local nature spirits the Druids had going, so 
much the better.

There have always been a host of angels, urges and demi-urges and 
latterly saints, to paste over the original pagan gods.

Any you found antisocial, became devils and demons, of course.

For a so-called  monotheistic religion, there are a lot of powerful 
beings in the Xtian pantheon ;-)


> TLA
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