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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 1, 1:11 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Jul 1, 4:01�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Anyway, while we are here, have you ever read the King Follet
>> >> >> Discourse?
>> >> >> Could you explain to me why you believe that God has always been 
>> >> >> God
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> bible claims and why your main prophet believes otherwise as 
>> >> >> outlined
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> discourses?
>> >> >> The only reason I ask this is that as I understand it, it's a 
>> >> >> complete
>> >> >> mind-fuck for most Mormons like yourself.
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>> >> > Well, you seem to have really worked yourself up about it. �Why 
>> >> > don't
>> >> > you write to Salt Lake City and get an official answer from church
>> >> > authorities?
>> >> > Robert B. Winn
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>> >> What makes you imagine I'm worked up about it?
>> >> Are you projecting?
>> >> I already know what the Mormon Authorities have to say on the subject.
>> >> So I'm asking you, but all you are doing is avoiding the question, as
>> >> expected.
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>> >> --
>> >> Steve O
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>> > Well, if you already have the official answer from the church, why are
>> > you asking me?
>> > Robert B. Winn
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>> Because I would be interested in knowing how you manage to reconcile the
>> teachings of Joseph Smith with the teachings of the bible, which, when it
>> comes to the basic characteristics of the Christian God, are completely 
>> in
>> opposition.
>> Actually, to be truthful, I really highlighted this point because I am 
>> aware
>> it is a source of embarrassment for Mormons like yourself who are 
>> generally
>> instructed not to tell people about this kind of stuff while they are out 
>> on
>> missionary duties.
>> As a 60 yr old Mormon, I would expect you to know about the King Follet
>> Discourse, or am I wrong?
>> So, how about it?
>> So, anyway, has God always been God, or was God once a man who progressed 
>> to
>> a God, as Smith claims in the King Follet Discourse, and is it possible 
>> for
>> Mormon men like yourself to become a God?
>> Once again, I expect you to run away from this question, as you have 
>> already
>> shown.
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>> --
>> Steve O
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> Well, the King Follet discourse was a funeral eulogy, not church
> doctrine.

He was the founding prophet of your faith.
It's interesting to hear that Smith's doctrine does not align with the 
doctrine of the church.
Must be a tremendous source of confusion for your elders


>The teachings of Joseph Smith with regard to the basic
> characteristics of the Christian God are that God has a body of flesh
> and bones as tangible as man's, his Son Jesus Christ also, but the
> Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of
> spirit.  These three consititute the Godhead.  These teachings are
> different from the rest of Christianity who follow the Nicene creed as
> a description of God and Jesus Christ, which was the result of a
> council called by the Emperor Constantine to unite Christian leaders
> and eliminate differences in their teachings.
> Robert B. Winn

So once again, if God has the body and flesh of a man, or at least once did, 
then why does the Christian bible claim that he has always been God, and is 
God , rather than a man?
I'd also be interested in hearing if you agree that Mormons (Mormon men 
only) can also become a God, as Smith mentioned in his discourses.

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack,
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
"I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the 
face, you can see a burnt tortilla"