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On Jul 2, 1:14 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > On Jul 1, 1:11 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> > On Jul 1, 4:01�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Anyway, while we are here, have you ever read the King Follet
> >> >> >> Discourse?
> >> >> >> Could you explain to me why you believe that God has always been
> >> >> >> God
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> bible claims and why your main prophet believes otherwise as
> >> >> >> outlined
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> discourses?
> >> >> >> The only reason I ask this is that as I understand it, it's a
> >> >> >> complete
> >> >> >> mind-fuck for most Mormons like yourself.
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> >> >> > Well, you seem to have really worked yourself up about it. �Why
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > you write to Salt Lake City and get an official answer from church
> >> >> > authorities?
> >> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> >> What makes you imagine I'm worked up about it?
> >> >> Are you projecting?
> >> >> I already know what the Mormon Authorities have to say on the subject.
> >> >> So I'm asking you, but all you are doing is avoiding the question, as
> >> >> expected.
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> >> >> --
> >> >> Steve O
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> >> > Well, if you already have the official answer from the church, why are
> >> > you asking me?
> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> Because I would be interested in knowing how you manage to reconcile the
> >> teachings of Joseph Smith with the teachings of the bible, which, when it
> >> comes to the basic characteristics of the Christian God, are completely
> >> in
> >> opposition.
> >> Actually, to be truthful, I really highlighted this point because I am
> >> aware
> >> it is a source of embarrassment for Mormons like yourself who are
> >> generally
> >> instructed not to tell people about this kind of stuff while they are out
> >> on
> >> missionary duties.
> >> As a 60 yr old Mormon, I would expect you to know about the King Follet
> >> Discourse, or am I wrong?
> >> So, how about it?
> >> So, anyway, has God always been God, or was God once a man who progressed
> >> to
> >> a God, as Smith claims in the King Follet Discourse, and is it possible
> >> for
> >> Mormon men like yourself to become a God?
> >> Once again, I expect you to run away from this question, as you have
> >> already
> >> shown.
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> >> --
> >> Steve O
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> > Well, the King Follet discourse was a funeral eulogy, not church
> > doctrine.
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> He was the founding prophet of your faith.
> It's interesting to hear that Smith's doctrine does not align with the
> doctrine of the church.
> Must be a tremendous source of confusion for your elders
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> >The teachings of Joseph Smith with regard to the basic
> > characteristics of the Christian God are that God has a body of flesh
> > and bones as tangible as man's, his Son Jesus Christ also, but the
> > Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of
> > spirit.  These three consititute the Godhead.  These teachings are
> > different from the rest of Christianity who follow the Nicene creed as
> > a description of God and Jesus Christ, which was the result of a
> > council called by the Emperor Constantine to unite Christian leaders
> > and eliminate differences in their teachings.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> So once again, if God has the body and flesh of a man, or at least once did,
> then why does the Christian bible claim that he has always been God, and is
> God , rather than a man?
> I'd also be interested in hearing if you agree that Mormons (Mormon men
> only) can also become a God, as Smith mentioned in his discourses.
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> --
> Steve O

God has eternal life, something atheists do not believe in and do not
want.  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints teaches that
members will inherit all that the Father hath if they are faithful,
which means that members of the church will also inherit eternal
life.  So members of the church can become like God, something that
was commanded also in the New Testament.   Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect.  So there is
nothing new in any of these doctrines.  They were taught by Jesus
Christ in his lifetime.
Robert B. Winn