Article View: sci.physics
Article #14239Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:43
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:43
109 lines
6584 bytes
6584 bytes
On Jul 1, 12:31 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:435aae2d-464a-40e7-a90d-b27f4c9bd144@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 12:53 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Jun 30, 1:18 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>> On Jun 29, 9:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >> >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> >>>> On Jun 30, 1:26 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >> >>>>> On Jun 29, 2:11 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:54�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>news:93faee1e-7aa9-4f18-b761-3a585ebcbaf0@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > >> >>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> by God > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that he does not exist. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to > >> >>>>>>>>>>> believe > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in God. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Why should anyone believe in a proven non-existent god? > >> >>>>>>>>>> Proven by whom? > >> >>>>>>>> By god himself! > >> >>>>>>>>> A proof is a proof; it doesn't matter who proved it. > >> >>>>>>>>> Robert > >> >>>>>>>> Well, if there was no one who proved it, and nothing was proven, > >> >>>>>>>> then > >> >>>>>>>> it did not happen. > >> >>>>>>>> ----------------------------------- > >> >>>>>>>> Just like your bible stories. > >> >>>>>>> Well, I believed in the story of Hezekiah's tunnel being dug, and > >> >>>>>>> sure > >> >>>>>>> enough, there is a tunnel there today, just as the Bible says > >> >>>>>>> there > >> >>>>>>> is. How do you explain it? > >> >>>>>> ER..there was a tunnel? > >> >>>>>> So what? > >> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>>>> Well, if there was an atheist anywhere who would admit that the > >> >>>>> verses > >> >>>>> of the Bible which describe the construction of the tunnel were > >> >>>>> true, > >> >>>>> then we could discuss other verses. As long as atheists claim that > >> >>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel is a myth, then we will just discuss Hezekiah's > >> >>>>> tunnel. > >> >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >> >>>> As long as you keep lying about what people have said when the > >> >>>> original is still online, people will think you're a loony. And call > >> >>>> you a liar. > >> >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>> Atheists will call me a liar no matter what I say. They used to call > >> >>> Jesus Christ a liar. > >> >> If you wish to stop being accused of lying, then stop lying. It's not > >> >> useful, you're not getting away with it. I guess it diverts attention > >> >> away from having to answer hard questions. <shrug>- Hide quoted text - > > >> > I have not lied about anything. There really is a conduit for water > >> > from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam. There is no Harry Potter. > >> > The city of London is still there. It is all exactly as I said it > >> > was. > > >> That is not one of the lies I'm referring to. > > >> You have lied repeatedly. If you don't know you're doing it, maybe you > >> need to seek help again.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, you atheists seem a lot more sensitive than most people. Any > > joke can be called a lie, but what is the point? > > I mean, I do not see you calling Jay Leno a liar every time he does > > his monologue. > > Robert B. Winn > > You mean you've been joking all along? > It wasn't funny at all... > > -- > Steve O No, I was not joking. Jay Leno was. Robert B. Winn
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<d0c14142-0788-43a9-8d4e-803b1194ed96@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mailReferences:
<75e67a00-86f5-4a77-af88-26aa5063d279@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <74e6eff8-410e-4b2d-a0e6-02502e5a0cbe@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <df084d52-af14-46d7-8007-73d87d68d111@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <93faee1e-7aa9-4f18-b761-3a585ebcbaf0@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <dRg9k.87703$zs1.81641@newsfe28.ams2> <77035200-d18c-4160-a52b-981facfbf8fc@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1214773980.21259.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <bda38129-da05-4ba6-9411-e74f325c8f9a@i18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <36884462-5c49-4bd5-b17a-592144eb8e73@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <0aa618e2-d57f-43ba-93c2-d4cc8a42aca6@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <48693f8b@clear.net.nz> <dd56262a-1134-4554-bbb1-d2fd8876f31b@a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4869e28b$1@clear.net.nz> <435aae2d-464a-40e7-a90d-b27f4c9bd144@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <6cvf1cF2nd1U1@mid.individual.net>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 109 Message-ID: <d0c14142-0788-43a9-8d4e-803b1194ed96@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> References: <75e67a00-86f5-4a77-af88-26aa5063d279@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <74e6eff8-410e-4b2d-a0e6-02502e5a0cbe@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <df084d52-af14-46d7-8007-73d87d68d111@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <93faee1e-7aa9-4f18-b761-3a585ebcbaf0@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <dRg9k.87703$zs1.81641@newsfe28.ams2> <77035200-d18c-4160-a52b-981facfbf8fc@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1214773980.21259.1@proxy01.news.clara.net> <bda38129-da05-4ba6-9411-e74f325c8f9a@i18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <36884462-5c49-4bd5-b17a-592144eb8e73@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <0aa618e2-d57f-43ba-93c2-d4cc8a42aca6@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <48693f8b@clear.net.nz> <dd56262a-1134-4554-bbb1-d2fd8876f31b@a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4869e28b$1@clear.net.nz> <435aae2d-464a-40e7-a90d-b27f4c9bd144@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <6cvf1cF2nd1U1@mid.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.117.9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1214941412 29889 127.0.0.1 (1 Jul 2008 19:43:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.117.9; posting-account=i6vpvwoAAABRbNds_JrzhNT-NaeHIrDG User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/1.1.1 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.1 spider-mtc-tf07.proxy.aol.com[400C70A7] (Prism/1.2.1), HTTP/1.1 cache-mtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com[400C7509] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5 [uScM])