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Article #14240Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:11
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:11
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:348e1c43-660e-47e1-a05f-d01e45fed2c3@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 1, 4:01�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> >> Anyway, while we are here, have you ever read the King Follet >> >> Discourse? >> >> Could you explain to me why you believe that God has always been God >> >> as >> >> the >> >> bible claims and why your main prophet believes otherwise as outlined >> >> in >> >> the >> >> discourses? >> >> The only reason I ask this is that as I understand it, it's a complete >> >> mind-fuck for most Mormons like yourself. >> >> > Well, you seem to have really worked yourself up about it. �Why don't >> > you write to Salt Lake City and get an official answer from church >> > authorities? >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> What makes you imagine I'm worked up about it? >> Are you projecting? >> I already know what the Mormon Authorities have to say on the subject. >> So I'm asking you, but all you are doing is avoiding the question, as >> expected. >> >> -- >> Steve O > > Well, if you already have the official answer from the church, why are > you asking me? > Robert B. Winn Because I would be interested in knowing how you manage to reconcile the teachings of Joseph Smith with the teachings of the bible, which, when it comes to the basic characteristics of the Christian God, are completely in opposition. Actually, to be truthful, I really highlighted this point because I am aware it is a source of embarrassment for Mormons like yourself who are generally instructed not to tell people about this kind of stuff while they are out on missionary duties. As a 60 yr old Mormon, I would expect you to know about the King Follet Discourse, or am I wrong? So, how about it? So, anyway, has God always been God, or was God once a man who progressed to a God, as Smith claims in the King Follet Discourse, and is it possible for Mormon men like yourself to become a God? Once again, I expect you to run away from this question, as you have already shown. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
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