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Article #14276Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:21
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:21
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On Jun 29, 2:04 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 27, 7:02�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> Chris Shore wrote: > >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>news:621f5b5c-8511-45b7-ae9f-03c8a9914fd5@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >>>> Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's > >>>> tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today. �Before > >>>> that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not > >>>> mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven. �Atheists say > >>>> whatever they think will fly. �It just so happened that I knew about > >>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for > >>>> this conversation. �So now they are saying that the Bible has some > >>>> history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that. �They > >>>> would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started, > >>>> that the Bible is nothing but mythology. > >>> Of course the Bibel has some history in it. And of course some of it > >>> is verifiable. So are various parts of various other ancient texts from > >>> other > >>> ancient historical/religious cultures. This prove absolutely nothing. > >> How is this difficult to understand? Three thousand posts suggest that > >> it is.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, there you go again denying the existence of Hezekiah's tunnel. > > The existence of Hezekiah's tunnel proves that the Bible is accurate > > aboput there being a conduit for water between Gihon Spring and the > > Pool of Siloam. > > Robert B. Winn > > With respect. so what? > > No one denies that along with many other ancient texts, there is a great > deal of historical fact, semi fact as well as lots of other stuff. > > There is, for example, a very accurate description of pyroclastic flow - > something no one in modern times had really seen and understood - by a > Roman historian describing Pompeii. (Pliny. writing probably around the > time of the crucifixion: AD 35 or so) > > Does this menathat everything Pliny wrote is total historical fact? No. > Though much of it eems to be., > > Does this mean we should base a religion on what he wrote? No.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, that would be up to you. Atheists have all manner of false idols. Their main one is money. Robert B. Winn
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