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On Jun 29, 2:06 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jun 26, 1:09�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>> W.A. Sawford wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05� am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48� am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. � All you have done
> >>>>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is
> >>>>>> suppsed to have done it. �Atheists have said they have proven all
> >>>>>> manner of things. �Almost always it turns out to be something some
> >>>>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists.
> >>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it
> >>>>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh).
> >>>>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.'
> >>>>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists
> >>>>> have claimed it? �Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything,
> >>>>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first
> >>>>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any
> >>>>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal.
> >>>> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis, nor
> >>>> a fact.
> >>>> So it can't be proven or disproven.
> >>>> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we cant get
> >>>> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less.
> >>>> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and open
> >>>> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole mess as
> >>>> something one can simply do without.
> >>>>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual
> >>>>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place...
> >>>> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility. Its
> >>>> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology.
> >>>> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not a
> >>>> statement about its existence, or lack thereof.
> >>>>> Wendy- Hide quoted text -
> >>> Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ.
> >> Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus.
>
> >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> > I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows.
> > He was the one who created atheists.
>
> Gosh. That's news to me? I thought it was alleged to be God who did
> that, or was Jesus an atheist?
>
> I know the early Church tried to paint him as distinctly gay, painting
> Mary Magdalene out of the picture.
>
Jesus Christ and Jehovah were the same individual.  He plainly said so
several times.
Robert B. Winn