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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jun 29, 2:06 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 26, 1:09�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>> W.A. Sawford wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05� am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48� am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. � All you have done
>>>>>>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is
>>>>>>>> suppsed to have done it. �Atheists have said they have proven all
>>>>>>>> manner of things. �Almost always it turns out to be something some
>>>>>>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists.
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it
>>>>>>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh).
>>>>>>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.'
>>>>>>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists
>>>>>>> have claimed it? �Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything,
>>>>>>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first
>>>>>>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any
>>>>>>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal.
>>>>>> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis, nor
>>>>>> a fact.
>>>>>> So it can't be proven or disproven.
>>>>>> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we cant get
>>>>>> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less.
>>>>>> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and open
>>>>>> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole mess as
>>>>>> something one can simply do without.
>>>>>>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual
>>>>>>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place...
>>>>>> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility. Its
>>>>>> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology.
>>>>>> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not a
>>>>>> statement about its existence, or lack thereof.
>>>>>>> Wendy- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ.
>>>> Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>> I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows.
>>> He was the one who created atheists.
>> Gosh. That's news to me? I thought it was alleged to be God who did
>> that, or was Jesus an atheist?
>>
>> I know the early Church tried to paint him as distinctly gay, painting
>> Mary Magdalene out of the picture.
>>
> Jesus Christ and Jehovah were the same individual.  He plainly said so
> several times.

I know, and you have totally failed to understand the message.

Hint: forget anything the Church has ever told you about God and Jesus, 
and just read the Gospel.



> Robert B. Winn