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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jun 29, 2:11 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jun 27, 6:54�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:93faee1e-7aa9-4f18-b761-3a585ebcbaf0@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof by God
>>>>>>>> that he does not exist.
>>>>>>> If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to believe
>>>>>>> in God.
>>>>>>> Why should anyone believe in a proven non-existent god?
>>>>>> Proven by whom?
>>>> By god himself!
>>>>> A proof is a proof; it doesn't matter who proved it.
>>>>> Robert
>>>> Well, if there was no one who proved it, and nothing was proven, then
>>>> it did not happen.
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> Just like your bible stories.
>>> Well, I believed in the story of Hezekiah's tunnel being dug, and sure
>>> enough, there is a tunnel there today, just as the Bible says there
>>> is.  How do you explain it?
>> ER..there was a tunnel?
>>
>> So what?
>>
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> 
> Well, if there was an atheist anywhere who would admit that the verses
> of the Bible which describe the construction of the tunnel were true,
> then we could discuss other verses.  As long as atheists claim that
> Hezekiah's tunnel is a myth, then we will just discuss Hezekiah's
> tunnel.

I never claimed Hezekiahs tunnel was a myth. I have no opinion and no data.

I never claimed the Bible was all myth either. Just that some of it was.

Its a collection of orally transmitted folkloer: some of it is family 
history, some of its is mythology, some of it is legal precendent, and 
some of it is philosophy. The new testament is largely Roman propaganda.


You have to realize that Catholicism was a tool used to prop up an 
Empire created by an invading army. In the same way that today people 
preach 'freedom and democracy'. The romans being less stupid and more 
cynical, decided that instead of an army, they could send in priests to 
preach pacifism and brotherly love, which if possible would prevent too 
much need for the army.

They then took oer all the N European pagan rituals and 'sanctified' 
them which is why we have the Birth celebrated at Christ-mass (who ever 
heard of sheep grazing out on the hills in mid winter) and the 
crucifixion celebrated (why one wold want to celebrate hanging someone 
who was supposed to be the goopd guy) at Easter, which is of course the 
festival of Oestrus, the Hare goddess of copulation and fertility..



Whether or not the world was created by a god, or just naturally, is an 
open question: whether or not the Church and religion was created by 
human beings, with intelligence and purpose, is not. It was.




> Robert B. Winn