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Article #14306Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:04
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:04
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 27, 7:02�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> Chris Shore wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:621f5b5c-8511-45b7-ae9f-03c8a9914fd5@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>> Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's >>>> tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today. �Before >>>> that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not >>>> mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven. �Atheists say >>>> whatever they think will fly. �It just so happened that I knew about >>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for >>>> this conversation. �So now they are saying that the Bible has some >>>> history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that. �They >>>> would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started, >>>> that the Bible is nothing but mythology. >>> Of course the Bibel has some history in it. And of course some of it >>> is verifiable. So are various parts of various other ancient texts from >>> other >>> ancient historical/religious cultures. This prove absolutely nothing. >> How is this difficult to understand? Three thousand posts suggest that >> it is.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, there you go again denying the existence of Hezekiah's tunnel. > The existence of Hezekiah's tunnel proves that the Bible is accurate > aboput there being a conduit for water between Gihon Spring and the > Pool of Siloam. > Robert B. Winn With respect. so what? No one denies that along with many other ancient texts, there is a great deal of historical fact, semi fact as well as lots of other stuff. There is, for example, a very accurate description of pyroclastic flow - something no one in modern times had really seen and understood - by a Roman historian describing Pompeii. (Pliny. writing probably around the time of the crucifixion: AD 35 or so) Does this menathat everything Pliny wrote is total historical fact? No. Though much of it eems to be., Does this mean we should base a religion on what he wrote? No.
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