🚀 go-pugleaf

rbwinn wrote:
> On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jun 26, 1:09�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> W.A. Sawford wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05� am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48� am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. � All you have done
>>>>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is
>>>>>> suppsed to have done it. �Atheists have said they have proven all
>>>>>> manner of things. �Almost always it turns out to be something some
>>>>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists.
>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it
>>>>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh).
>>>>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.'
>>>>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists
>>>>> have claimed it? �Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything,
>>>>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first
>>>>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any
>>>>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal.
>>>> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis, nor
>>>> a fact.
>>>> So it can't be proven or disproven.
>>>> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we cant get
>>>> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less.
>>>> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and open
>>>> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole mess as
>>>> something one can simply do without.
>>>>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual
>>>>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place...
>>>> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility. Its
>>>> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology.
>>>> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not a
>>>> statement about its existence, or lack thereof.
>>>>> Wendy- Hide quoted text -
>>> Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ.
>> Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows.
> He was the one who created atheists.

Gosh. That's news to me? I thought it was alleged to be God who did 
that, or was Jesus an atheist?

I know the early Church tried to paint him as distinctly gay, painting 
Mary Magdalene out of the picture.



> Robert B. Winn