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Article #14313Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:46
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:46
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On Jun 27, 10:48 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Jun 26, 5:59 am, "W.A. Sawford" <was1...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > > >> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote: > > >>> On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>> On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > > >>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. All you have done > > >>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is > > >>> suppsed to have done it. Atheists have said they have proven all > > >>> manner of things. Almost always it turns out to be something some > > >>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists. > > >>> Robert B. Winn > > >> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it > > >> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh). > > > >> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.' > > > >> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists > > >> have claimed it? Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything, > > >> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first > > >> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any > > >> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal. > > > >> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual > > >> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place... > > > >> Wendy > > > > Well, give me your address, and I can send you a Bible. So we will > > > run through what has been said so far. Atheists say that everything > > > in the Bible is mythology. > > > No they do not. > > > They sy it is a mixture of history, mythology and social mores.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's > tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today. Before > that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not > mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven. Atheists say > whatever they think will fly. It just so happened that I knew about > Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for > this conversation. So now they are saying that the Bible has some > history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that. They > would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started, > that the Bible is nothing but mythology. > Robert B. Winn Ah, good old lying Robby again. Nowhere in the discussion did someone say "there was nothing in the Bible that was not mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven." You made that up as a strawman to argue over because you couldn't counter the objection someone raised to you claiming the bible must be true because it sold a lot of copies. And yes, I will keep calling you on this lie. Al
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