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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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On Jun 27, 9:05 am, mizlee <miz...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 8:49 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Jun 26, 1:09?pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > >> W.A. Sawford wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>> On Jun 26, 5:05? am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48? am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. ? All you have 
> > > >>>> done
> > > >>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who 
> > > >>>> is
> > > >>>> suppsed to have done it. ?Atheists have said they have proven all
> > > >>>> manner of things. ?Almost always it turns out to be something 
> > > >>>> some
> > > >>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other 
> > > >>>> atheists.
> > > >>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > >>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, 
> > > >>> which it
> > > >>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh).
> > > >>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.'
> > > >>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which 
> > > >>> atheists
> > > >>> have claimed it? ?Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' 
> > > >>> anything,
> > > >>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the 
> > > >>> first
> > > >>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of 
> > > >>> god any
> > > >>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of 
> > > >>> Traal.
> > > >> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis, 
> > > >> nor
> > > >> a fact.
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> > > >> So it can't be proven or disproven.
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> > > >> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we 
> > > >> cant get
> > > >> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less.
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> > > >> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and 
> > > >> open
> > > >> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole 
> > > >> mess as
> > > >> something one can simply do without.
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> > > >>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although 
> > > >>> actual
> > > >>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first 
> > > >>> place...
> > > >> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility. 
> > > >> Its
> > > >> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology.
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> > > >> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not 
> > > >> a
> > > >> statement about its existence, or lack thereof.
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> > > >>> Wendy- Hide quoted text -
> > > > Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ.
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> > > Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus.
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> > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> > I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows.
> > He was the one who created atheists.
> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> So, if Jesus Christ created atheists, and Jesus Christ was perfect, he
> could not create imperfection. Hence, atheists are perfect. Sounds
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Well, Jesus Christ would be the one to tell your idea.  He is the one
who is going to judge the earth.
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You keep saying this and talk about 'end times', but have never told us what 
date it will happen.
You claim to have a 'direct line' to this JC character, so tell us what he 
says.

Smiler,
The godless one
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