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Article #14409Re: True Philosophers and Thought
From: PD
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:00
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:00
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On Apr 26, 12:24 pm, Lester Zick <dontbot...@nowhere.net> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT), PD > > > > <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Apr 24, 6:35 pm, foolsrushin <dolomi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On 25 Apr, 00:22, Lester Zick <dontbot...@nowhere.net> wrote: > > >> > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT), PD > >> > <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Obviously you've already taken a vow of consummate ignorance. Anyone > >> > >> can say anything publicly without making it true. > >> > >That's certainly correct. However, the point of using words in the > >> > >first place is not to establish the truth of the purported meaning of > >> > >those words, but to communicate. > >> > To communicate what? Science prefers truth. > >> > ~v~~ > > >> Contractual obligations, poems, plays, inductive infallibility? Can > >> the latter be communicated unambigously? Wittgenstein retreated to > >> language games, and rightly, Russell thought them silly. > > >Lester has certainly proferred himself toward the perception that he > >doesn't really care one way or the other. His wee game is to cycle > >through a two line script: > >1 Prove what you say. > >2. Nope, you haven't proven it. [Go back to 1] > > Difference is I can demonstrate the truth of one thing It doesn't appear that this is demonstrated at all, though it is certainly clear that you've *assumed* one thing. However, if you want to claim that you know only one thing, because you can demonstrate the truth of one thing, then I guess I'm OK with your self-assessment. > whereas you > can't demonstrate the truth of anything. Yes, I certainly can. I just can't demonstrate it to sofa cushions, old pencil erasers, or Lester Zick. That, however, is not my problem. > > Tell you what. We'll settle just for having you demonstrate your own > conception of truth instead of complaining about mine. Tell you what. Let's not. That would be returning to your little two line script mentioned earlier, and that seems like an *awfully* tedious game. > > ~v~~
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