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Article #14408Re: True Philosophers and Thought
From: foolsrushin
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:54
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:54
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On 28 Apr, 06:37, David Bernier <david...@videotron.ca> wrote: > foolsrushin wrote: > > On 25 Apr, 00:22, Lester Zick<dontbot...@nowhere.net> wrote: > >> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT), PD > >> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Obviously you've already taken a vow of consummate ignorance. Anyone > >>>> can say anything publicly without making it true. > >>> That's certainly correct. However, the point of using words in the > >>> first place is not to establish the truth of the purported meaning of > >>> those words, but to communicate. > >> To communicate what? Science prefers truth. > >> ~v~~ > > Contractual obligations, poems, plays, inductive infallibility? Can > > the latter be communicated unambigously? Wittgenstein retreated to > > language games, and rightly, Russell thought them silly. > The topic of vagueness in language is studied by philosophers. It goes > back at least to the Sororites' paradox about removing from a pile of > sand one grain of sand at a time, thus ending up with something > that isn't a pile of sand, and the realization that "pile of sand" > is vague. > It seems to me like the type of question that is never definitely settled. > <http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Linguistics-and-Philosophy/24-729Fall-2005/... > > > David Bernier Excellent point! What you need to do next is arrive at an operational definition for 'pile'. An art object, a clock, bottom of an aquariam, make glass ... . In each case you will need to consider problemns of measurement and variation... . But that's science! That's life! -- 'foolsrushin..
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