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Re: True Philosophers and Thought

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From: David Bernier
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:37
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foolsrushin wrote:
> On 25 Apr, 00:22, Lester Zick<dontbot...@nowhere.net>  wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT), PD
>> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Obviously you've already taken a vow of consummate ignorance. Anyone
>>>> can say anything publicly without making it true.
>>> That's certainly correct. However, the point of using words in the
>>> first place is not to establish the truth of the purported meaning of
>>> those words, but to communicate.
>> To communicate what? Science prefers truth.
>> ~v~~
>
> Contractual obligations, poems, plays, inductive infallibility? Can
> the latter be communicated unambigously? Wittgenstein retreated to
> language games, and rightly, Russell thought them silly.

The topic of vagueness in language is studied by philosophers.  It goes
back at least to the Sororites' paradox about removing from a pile of
sand one grain of sand at a time, thus ending up with something
that isn't a pile of sand, and the realization that "pile of sand"
is vague.

It seems to me like the type of question that is never definitely settled.

< 
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Linguistics-and-Philosophy/24-729Fall-2005/CourseHome/index.htm 
 >

David Bernier
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