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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:20:04 -0800 (PST), mitchgrav@hotmail.com wrote
(in part):

...
>
>Zero and infinite energy light; one going inward at the event horizon
>and one going outward are nonsense predictions. These predictions
>disprove black hole theory where time ends in the Schwarzschild
>metric.
>

Well, they certainly do seem to be to blame for our current
difficulties with the Black Hole Information Paradox under GR1915. 


Under NM (which only predicts an inward frequency-doubling seen by an
observer dropped off at r=2M), objects and information can still
migrate outwards through the r=2M surface, as classical indirect
radiation. This leakage disturbs the apparent order of events seen by
distant observers, so if those observers apply an overidealised
GR1915-style metric to describe the particles that they see appearing
inexplicably outside a dark star, they'll tend to construct a slightly
artificial explanation for it, that involves particle-pairs appearing,
acausally, outside the horizon. 

So the "doubled frequency" blueshift for NM is associated with effects
whose overall statistical behaviour is analogous to modern (1970's)
Hawking radiation under QM. 


General relativity, with its infinite inward blueshift, doesn't allow
any hope for matter escaping r=2M, so it can't model Hawking radiation
or similar effects, and it's therefore structurally incompatible with
quantum mechanics. 


So, while C18th Newtonian theory had other faults, it did seem to get
indirect radiation through r=2m pretty much right, where GR1915 
(C20th and C21st !) still gets it badly wrong.  


=Erk= (Eric Baird)
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