🚀 go-pugleaf

You present a very specific and direct question or argument, such as
"How much global warming(GW) is our local mascon good for?", and lo
and behold all that we ever get is more of the same Old Testament
fortified crapolla as per the usual of topic/author stalking, plus
frequent topic hijackings along with plenty of their mainstream status
quo flak that's intended to kill.  Apparently it's against some weird
Usenet law to even have an honest SWAG to share, much less for sharing
those actual specific hard numbers that we can take to our local
bank.  Otherwise, it seems topic/author banishment along with all the
usual evidence exclusion is still the norm of keeping your status quo
ship from rocking, along with every possible effort applied to your PC
or MAC in order to at least kill off that portion of your research.

In other words, it's totally pathetic and otherwise the utmost extreme
of whatever the very worse of what humanity has ever had to offer, and
then some, along with those Usenet insiders in the know being 100% in
charge and/or of their knowing exactly where each and every bit of
such flak is coming from, and of its intended target.  I'll gladly
share lots more on just this topic alone.

Unlike most of the lethal intended replies, this is an example of what
one of many but somewhat nicer replies of the usual naysayism had to
share.

>Timberwoof:
>Why do you think screwing with the tides is a good idea? All coastal
>sea life evolved with the tides; I think it would be a bad idea to go
>changing them.

Unlike Timberwoof's somewhat narrow and otherwise skewed out of
context and thus always negative going mindset of obvious topic
naysayism, whereas instead I'd only intended to moderate our existing
lunar forced tides (though mostly on behalf of what we can't see),
perhaps down to the dull roar of imposing as little as 1/16th as much
as we're currently having to deal with, thus making the combined solar
+moon (two body aligned) tide worth perhaps 1.125 ~ 1.25 again as much
as our solar forced tide currently represents.  Therefore, with our
moon nicely parked at Earth's L1, our mostly wet surface environment
still has a nifty 24 hour tide, and we'll also get that terrific
little spot of solar isolation as a badly needed bonus of shade.
Obviously our "Timberwoof" and many others of their kind have complex
issues that are opposed to salvaging or in any way moderating our
badly failing environment, whereas I have shared upon all sorts of
well proven and established forms of renewable energy that's worth 100
fold greater footprint energy density than most anything nuclear, and
otherwise of better internal combustion that offers zero NOx, plus I
have more than a few off-world alternatives that are only made naysay
taboo/nondisclosure rated because of folks like "Timberwoof" that
either can't or refuse to think outside or hardly even inside the box.

BTW  this analogy or alternative interpretation about our moon keeping
Earth a little extra toasty is yet another ideal 3D planetology/
geophysics sort of simulation thing, and perfectly suited for a good
enough supercomputer.  Too bad all of those public funded
supercomputers are tied up downloading and/or sharing live smut, or
into making all of those 3D amimated productions of eye candy that has
nothing to do with physics or science.

I've slightly revised the following, so that a fresh topic reader
might better grasp onto the core of what this sub-topic consideration
of our using that pesky moon in order to shade Earth has to deliver,
besides accomplishing less solar influx/insolation and otherwise
elliminating the moon's IR shine.

If it's supposedly impossible to accomplish anything of robotics or of
a manned science platform at our moon's L1, then instead there's no
question that VL2 POOF City at less than 660 w/m2 is technically 100%
doable as is.  However, Venus itself is looking better and better all
the time.  It seems that our wet and otherwise 98.5% fluid Earth is
not just a very rare planet, whereas it's also rather dumbfounded
about getting summarily global warmed to death by our local mascon/
moon, plus having been receiving all the warm and fuzzy GW benefits of
humanity running itself amuck.

For a little Usenet friendly terrestrial reminder:
Total ice melt = 80.32 meters + given a little extra rise on behalf of
a thermal expansion factor and continued but greatly accelerated
erosion filling in for perhaps a combined 20% boost = 96 meters.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

Here's an even better global warming test:
 - can you folks swim and otherwise survive upon jellyfish? -

Of local planetology and a salty old mascon of a moon that's not going
away soon enough, is all about utilizing the regular laws of physics
with the best available science and of those better than average
educated minds to the maximum extent possible.  Or we could keep
telling ourselves those same old lies upon lies, and otherwise
believing in the tooth fairy after we elect Sponge Bob Square Pants as
our next LLPOF president (aka Jewish puppet).  With such an
educational and science obtainable goal for relocating our moon out to
Earth's L1, as such this daunting but otherwise doable task would
actually provide many direct environmental benefits, that is if it
were not for the ongoing Old Testament faith-based gauntlet of
insurmountable naysayism and otherwise mainstream damage-control
fornication that's continually in denial of their being in denial,
such as our NASA/Apollo wizardly need of their covering thy
infomercial spewing moonsuit butts until hell freezes over, which as
you know is never going to happen unless we get rid of our moon.

In addition to all of our human contributed worth of atmospheric
deployed soot and a few too many toxic elements, pushing the h2o
content of our sooty and CO2 enhanced atmosphere of such acidic water
from 100 teratonnes to more than 250 teratonnes, the artificial
shifting of Earth's surface albedo in the wrong damn direction is
simply going to further expedite the ongoing demise of the lower 99.9%
of humanity (that's mostly of us poor folk and/or servitude minions to
the rich and powerful), that's obviously still far too snookered and
thus easily dumbfounded past the point of no return.  Unfortunately,
most folks within Usenet have been working their infomercial spewing
butts off, in seriously applied overtime at keeping this already bad
situation going in the worse possible direction.

The humanly forced and clearly negative going shift of Earth's albedo,
by way of diving ourselves off the deep end of our having subtracted
merely one albedo percentage point, is yet another real environment
killer to the thermal balance of our Earth that's keeping itself more
and more clouded throughout a wetter and stormier nighttime that's
only getting rid of perhaps little more than 90% of that extra
absorbed insolation worth of energy.  Of course, more than a few
others and certainly I've only been sharing that deductive
interpretation for several years, along with sharing many other honest
thoughts about our global warming moon that's not exactly helping us
to survive upon our 98.5% fluid Earth, as in not helping one damn bit
because of the unavoidable gravity/tidal friction that's continually
taking place within and all about our fluid Earth.

You see, true geology and thus honest planetology or perhaps even
local interstellar cosmology is not just about what you or I can see,
such as noticing bad weather extremes that's only getting worse, and
of ocean risings plus surface tidal flows that are only accomplishing
more collateral damage than good, whereas 98.5% or more of our global
environment that's below our two left dumbfounded feet is essentially
fluid to those horrific gravity/tidal forces contributed by our pesky
mascon/moon, as well as those of solar tidal influence, of having been
contributing to what goes all the way to the very molten core of this
planet that's also in the unfortunate process of losing it's
magnetosphere at the impressive rate of -.05%/year (if that factor
alone isn't bad enough news, then perhaps nothing is).

It seems our very own brown-nosed clowns of spewed conditional
physics, skewed science and evidence exclusion are in fact running us
amuck (on behalf of the rich getting a whole lot richer at the demise
of most others), whereas this time our supposed best available science
(aka junk science of mostly infomercial hyped disinformation) and of
their faith-based puppeteers has in fact managed to shoot off both of
our two left dumbfounded feet, and then some because, GW with or w/o
humanity is here to stay as long as that terrific mascon of a nearby
moon isn't relocated out to Earth's L1.

Of course, the likes of our Death Valley at -86 meters, the Great
Basin at -105 meters (aka including much of Nevada), and even that of
our Grand Canyon would soon enough become massive salt water holding
basins, along with incorporating most all of Salt Lake City and
multiple other old and dried up salt global basins becoming wet and
thus albedo dark instead of offering that salty near white of a better
solar energy reflective surface.  All of that combined along with our
usual soot and acidic loaded atmosphere of becoming worth 250
teratonnes of h2o that's unavoidably giving our nighttime sky more
cloud coverage for keeping a greater portion of whatever's getting
contributed by day.  Therefore, there's no question of what's humanly
contributed on top of the gravity/tidal forces of energy transferred
into the mostly internal friction that's derived from our moon.

However, the good of what's within GW news being, Venus is looking a
whole lot better all the time.  At least on Venus there's unlimited
renewable energy to burn, sort of speak, and you certainly don't have
to buy off those pesky wetland or CO2 credits.  Since relocating our
moon out to Earth's L1 is not likely to ever happen (because we're
simply not smart enough for making such happen, especially if this
were going to benefit other than the rich), whereas in the mean time,
perhaps my VL2 POOF City should be accomplished before we have even
fewer options.
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http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/GlobWarmTest/start.html
LLPOF Question 3:
Global Warming is believed to be caused primarily by:

b) orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the Sun's output

 That is correct! (unfortunately, that is actually a well proven lie)

Our GW toasty environment that has been going somewhat postal since
the last ice age is primarily caused by our moon that has only been
with us since that last ice age this badly polluted planet will ever
see.  GW is simply NOT caused * primarily * by any 11 year solar cycle
and/or that of our elliptical orbit.  At best the human factors and of
our orbital and solar fluctuation issues amount to 25% of the total
picture, although the way we're going that portion could certainly
become forced even higher.

Of extra water vapor being sustained within our humanly soot infused
atmosphere is in fact a secondary result of the primary GW that's
directly caused by our nearby and fairly massive moon.  However, going
from 100 teratonnes to that of 250+ teratonnes of sustained
atmospheric h2o that's extra loaded and/or fortified along with our
soot and artificial CO2 is not exactly a good sign, especially when
we've also terminated nearly half of the global diatom populations at
the same time we're extracting 100 million tonnes/year of food from
our polluted and increasingly dead-zone populated oceans, that which
can't possibly sustain half that amount of trauma unless we
extensively clean up our act.

Once again, here's that better two-part global warming test question:
 - can you folks swim and survive upon jellyfish? -
-
Brad Guth