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Jeff...Relf wrote:
> God  Stephen_Dedalus,
> You placed your _UnDying_Faith_ in this piece of metaphysical hogwash:
>
>   There is genuine randomness;
>   however, we can calculate the probabilites with pin-point accuracy.
>
> You can't observe anything denser than Planck_Density... Right ?
> So, why are you so in love with the metaphysical lore which imagines that
> hidden causalities _Could_Not_Exist_ beyond that ?
>
> Why are you so in love with the metaphysical lore which imagines that
> today's theories and technologies could _Never_ be improved upon ?
> Your banality astounds me.
>
> You concluded:
>
>   The HUP applies to everything.
>   Does this mean we have any freedom of will ?
>   In my view, no it doesn't - determinism and randomness both rob
>   us of this, but in very different ways.
>
> If the past is any indicator, HUP will not be the last word.  For example...
> What did Newton know about ultra-precision clocks ticking faster
> with minute increases in altitude ?  Nothing.  Nothing at all.
>
> Today's precision is not the same as tomorrow's... trust me on that.
>
> You consume.  What doesn't consume ?
> What doesn't eventually dissipate into nothingness ?
> Everything in life can be explained in terms of consumption and dissipation.
>
> Did you chose to be born ?  Are you not a slave to your God ?
> Are you not God to your slaves ?
>
> The _Facts_ are known... true free-will does _Not_ exist.

I don't know if I'm a god or not.  I don't have any slaves.  Any
takers?  ;)

Anyway, back to a question that I noticed.  Did we choose to be born?
I know you're thinking that we didn't... but how do you know?  How do
you know that we were not souls at one time who decided to be born onto
this planet to live the human experience?

-Stacey
http://seeking-enlightenment.blogspot.com