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Article #14688Re: Time machine implies existence of God?
From: PD
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:41
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:41
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On Feb 5, 1:53 pm, Victor Porton <por...@narod.ru> wrote: > I have the following rough idea: > > Suppose some kind of time machine exists (it may be e.g. two connected > moving blackholes with wormhole between). > > Suppose somebody want to use it to travel in the past when he was a > child and kill himself in the childhood. > > If he would do it it would violate basic principles. > > So something necessarily would disturb him to do it. > > It looks like that the force which would disturb him to do it shall be > very clever. I suspect that this way we would deduce existence of God. > > Can we put it in rigorous mathematical formulas, such as requiring > existence in physical reality a function which could solve any math > problem on its input? (We may think about a mathematician borrowing a > theorem from the future, so that there would be no man who proved the > theorem first, or something similar to find such a solving function, I > suspect.) > > Also I suspect that something similar may be deduced from existence of > faster-than-light quantum teleportation (because it violated the > principle of causality in the sense of Relativity Theory). > > So, can anybody formulate these physical theories in exact formulas > (about a "solving any problems" physical function)? First of all, it does no good to suppose something that violates known laws of physics. If an event violates the laws of physics, then it won't happen, and that's not because something clever stopped it. Likewise, there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine, because that violates some laws of physics. This doesn't mean that something clever has stepped in to keep a perpetual motion machine from working.
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