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Article #14689Re: Time machine implies existence of God?
From: Victor Porton
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:56
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:56
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On Feb 5, 10:41 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 5, 1:53 pm, Victor Porton <por...@narod.ru> wrote: > > > I have the following rough idea: > > > Suppose some kind of time machine exists (it may be e.g. two connected > > moving blackholes with wormhole between). > > > Suppose somebody want to use it to travel in the past when he was a > > child and kill himself in the childhood. > > > If he would do it it would violate basic principles. > > > So something necessarily would disturb him to do it. > > > It looks like that the force which would disturb him to do it shall be > > very clever. I suspect that this way we would deduce existence of God. > > > Can we put it in rigorous mathematical formulas, such as requiring > > existence in physical reality a function which could solve any math > > problem on its input? (We may think about a mathematician borrowing a > > theorem from the future, so that there would be no man who proved the > > theorem first, or something similar to find such a solving function, I > > suspect.) > > > Also I suspect that something similar may be deduced from existence of > > faster-than-light quantum teleportation (because it violated the > > principle of causality in the sense of Relativity Theory). > > > So, can anybody formulate these physical theories in exact formulas > > (about a "solving any problems" physical function)? > > First of all, it does no good to suppose something that violates known > laws of physics. If an event violates the laws of physics, then it > won't happen, and that's not because something clever stopped it. > > Likewise, there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine, > because that violates some laws of physics. This doesn't mean that > something clever has stepped in to keep a perpetual motion machine > from working. I am not a physicist. But I heard that two connected moving blackholes with wormhole between can act as time machine. I'm not sure whether this is true, but I suppose it may be true, based on opinion of some physicists. Also: AFAIK, quantum teleportation is a known fact. Can we deduce some problem solving function from quantum teleportation? I just ask, I don't know.
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