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Article #14835Re: ARE ELECTRONS PHYSICAL ENTITIES?
From: Y.Porat
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:57
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:57
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On Jul 29, 7:30 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote: > On Jul 28, 11:20 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > i am the last one to tell him that > > we cannot extrarpolate endlessly in physics > > anyway > > if you think that a' point' is a physical entity > > and not a **human artifact** welcome !! > > Come on "Y", of course one can extrapolate endlessly in physics! > Especially if you don't care if your theories actually have a basis in > observed reality. The idea is that MATH is the ultimate reality, > hence since "points" exist in math, it's clear that one can say that > "point particles" exist in physics. One should ALWAYS use mathematics > as the indicator of true reality. That way reality can be any self- > consistent system you say it is, just as one can mathematically define > any self-consistent system or even multiple mutually exclusive self- > consistent systems. > > To actually try to discover the true nature of an electron and to > speculate on it being a vortex (less than nothing) in the luminiferous > aether, is clearly not going to get anyone anywhere. There is no real > mathematical model for aether vortexes and therefore they cannot exist > in reality! Especially since math shows that aether is not needed to > describe reality, therefore, it is clear aether does not exist. We > only need to accept the properties of empty space as given constants > that come from nowhere just as we accept the idea that energy in the > form of waves travels easily through nothing at all. That seems clear > enough. Doesn't it? > > I think it's clear that modern physics has pretty much explained all > observed phenomena such as electrons, light, and other particles. > What is there left to figure out? ------------------ Hey benj allow me to smile (:-) now if you think that amthematics should be the supreme judge of physics i think you dont know what physics is at the beginning i though t you are joking but if not your physics situation is very sad 2 you ddint notice that all this thread is going to erase in a few days so we are wasting our typing for nothing see you around the corner in another thread........ if you are interested to learn some basic philosophy of physics 3 may i guess that you came to physics from .... mathematics ?? ATB Y.Porat ------------------
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