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Article #14834Re: ARE ELECTRONS PHYSICAL ENTITIES?
From: Benj
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:30
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:30
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On Jul 28, 11:20 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > i am the last one to tell him that > we cannot extrarpolate endlessly in physics > anyway > if you think that a' point' is a physical entity > and not a **human artifact** welcome !! Come on "Y", of course one can extrapolate endlessly in physics! Especially if you don't care if your theories actually have a basis in observed reality. The idea is that MATH is the ultimate reality, hence since "points" exist in math, it's clear that one can say that "point particles" exist in physics. One should ALWAYS use mathematics as the indicator of true reality. That way reality can be any self- consistent system you say it is, just as one can mathematically define any self-consistent system or even multiple mutually exclusive self- consistent systems. To actually try to discover the true nature of an electron and to speculate on it being a vortex (less than nothing) in the luminiferous aether, is clearly not going to get anyone anywhere. There is no real mathematical model for aether vortexes and therefore they cannot exist in reality! Especially since math shows that aether is not needed to describe reality, therefore, it is clear aether does not exist. We only need to accept the properties of empty space as given constants that come from nowhere just as we accept the idea that energy in the form of waves travels easily through nothing at all. That seems clear enough. Doesn't it? I think it's clear that modern physics has pretty much explained all observed phenomena such as electrons, light, and other particles. What is there left to figure out?
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