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In article <1992Jul25.183038.5345@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.180106.5023@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
>
>>     Gee, Greg.  Once again you insist on implying that these
>>     objections have been *successfully* addressed rather than
>>     making the arguments yourself.  Is this simply laziness, or
>>     is it a realization that the counterarguments are weak? 
>
>I'm sorry Dale, but I don't claim to be an expert on hydrogen storage
>in metal lattices. I'm just pointing out references in the literature.
>That's how science gets done, you know, by publishing in the
>literature, not by arguing on Usenet. If you think that reading the
>literature is laziness, then I can't help you.

     Weak counterargument.  Economics comes in to the storage of
     hydrogen in this fashion.  It would be much cheaper just to 
     pull methane out of the ground (or crude oil for that manner)
     than to use solar of any form to separate water to be 
     transported around in hydrogen-containing metals.  In fact
     if one insists on doing things this way, it is cheaper to 
     build a large nuclear plant to do the electrolysis, eliminating
     solar entirely.

>>     P.S.  exploding hydrogen is a wonderful topic for this newsgroup.
>
>If you're curious about the results, they have developed hydrogen
>storage containers that can be punctured, crushed, and otherwise
>dismembered (i.e. shot with high-power rifles) without exploding. I'm
>sorry that you can't take a few minutes out of your busy schedule to
>read about it.

     For my work, we'll have a D2 container that will not be crushable
     even if one dropped the loading crane on it.  That does not
     make it viable and economically feasable for using in 
     a 'hydrogen economy'.

>Again, I'd suggest another newsgroup if you wish to continue your
>massive flamewar on these issues.

     You may continue the flamewar you started in any group you feel
     necessary.  Usually, I'll just stick to making and rebutting 
     arguments presented.

                                  dale bass

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C. R. Bass                                           crb7q@virginia.edu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of Virginia
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