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Re: PIONEER ANOMALY AND COSMIC DECREASE OF GRAVITY

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From: Craig Markwardt
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:56
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Thomas <thomas.smid@gmail.com> writes:


> On 27 Apr, 18:33, Craig Markwardt
> <craigm...@REMOVEcow.physics.wisc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > This statement is incorrect.  If the classical Doppler shift is used
> > instead of the relativistic one, thePioneersolution actually becomes
> > much worse.
> 
> The classical (first order) Doppler shift was actually used by
> Anderson et al. in their paper (see Eq.(15) in [...]
> ).

You are incorrect.  Quoting more of the text, "The observed, two-way
anomalous effect *can be expressed* to first order in v/c as ...."
(emph added.)

That the anomaly *can be expressed* in that fashion for reader
edification does not mean it was "actually used" that way in the
analysis.  In fact, the *actual* Doppler analysis as described by
Moyer (Anderson's footnote 42) uses the fully relativistic
formulation.

The Anderson authors display their equation 15 to first order in v/c
because it is more instructive that way.  The fully relativistic
expression is far more complicated and the anomalous contribution
would be difficult to discern.

CM
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