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On Aug 8, 8:07 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 7, 3:08 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
> > SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 7, 2:49 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 7, 7:37 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Zombie knows no limits. Up until recently, Clever Draper, I was
> >>>>> accused, by your brothers zombies, of being OBSESSED with Einstein's
> >>>>> 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) since I had referred to it countless times
> >>>>> indeed. Some time ago I discussed and gave references to the other
> >>>>> equation, c'=c(1+2V/c^2), as well:
>
> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thre...
>
> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thre...
>
> >>>> These still don't point to original sources....
>
> >>> They do Clever Draper but:
>
> >>>http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
> >>> "I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think
> >>> this is getting too silly!"
>
> >>> Pentcho Valev
> >>> pva...@yahoo.com
>
> >> No quotations.
>
> >> Dirk Vdm
>
> > All the information about Einstein's two equations showing how the
> > speed of light varies with the gravitational potential, including all
> > necessary references, can be found here:
>
> >http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-01/6-01.htm
>
> >http://www.speed-light.info/speed_of_light_12000.htm
>
> Non-locally measured speed of light, Pissy Volvo, NON-LOCALLY.

Of course non-locally, Clever Moortel. The non-local variation of the
speed of light is what I have always been talking about (in the
presence of a gravitational field), and, besides, Divine Albert and
today's hypnotists in Einstein criminal cult define it quite clearly
(the so called "local" case is not interesting at all and is
introduced as camouflage).  In other words, Clever Moortel, the only
fact that matters is that, as Master Steve Carlip explains, the speed
of light is variable in "a frame at rest relative to a source of
gravity":

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.research/msg/c7eddf24b59b0840
Master Steve Carlip: "In special relativity, the speed of light is
constant when measured in any *inertial* frame.  In general
relativity, the appropriate generalization is that the speed of light
is constant in any freely falling reference frame (in a region small
enough that tidal effects can be neglected). In this passage, Einstein
is not talking about a freely falling frame, but rather about a frame
at rest relative to a source of gravity.  In such a frame, the speed
of light can differ from c."

Einstein's equations c'=c(1+V/c^2) and c'=c(1+2V/c^2), Clever Moortel,
are relevant to "a frame at rest relative to a source of gravity". The
gravitational frequency shift f'=f(1+V/c^2), Clever Moortel,
experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka, is also relevant to "a
frame at rest relative to a source of gravity":

http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a
long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in
1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a
previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the
speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational
field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second
place our result shows that, according to the general theory of
relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in
vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the
special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently
referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of
light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light
varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special
Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called
mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that
the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light
in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for
the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity.
One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2)
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
REDSHIFT FACTOR."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com