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Article #15764Re: Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de désinformation contre Newton Re: Answers to Mr. Ben : Michelson's m...
From: Yanick Toutain
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:45
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:45
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On 19 juil, 23:49, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Jul 17, 10:25 am, YanickToutain<YanickTout...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >http://monsyte.blogspot.com/2008/07/misinformation-campaign-against-i... > > en ===>frhttp://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=b... > > en ====> zthttp://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=b... > > > Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de > > désinformation contre Newton > > Mr. Ian Parker > > > lang=en > > > I do not understand with whom your answer is addressed. > > You answer me or you address to another interlocutor ? > > For my part, as for the "misinformation campaign" , the only one that > > I know is the misinformation campaign against the true theses of Isaac > > Newton: > > All occurs in the vacuum. > > All is objective. > > Speeds are objective. > > It is the beginning of its " Principia". > > > Consequently, the relation between speed of light and the speed of the > > bodies is simple: > > Speed of light is the maximum speed. > > Any speed is a fraction (a ratio, a percentage) of the maximum speed, > > a fraction, a proportionality of the speed of light. > > For example: it is extremely probable which the speed of the sun is > > equal to 1/60 speed of light. > > ===================== > > lang=fr > > Je ne comprends pas à qui votre réponse est adressée. > > Est-ce que vous me répondez vous ou bien est-ce que vous vous adressez > > à un autre interlocuteur ? > > Pour ma part, quant à la "campagne de désinformation", la seule que je > > connaisse est la campagne de désinformation contre les véritables > > thèses de Isaac Newton : > > Tout se passe dans le vide. > > Tout est objectif. > > Les vitesses sont objectives. > > C'est le début de ses "Principia". > > > En conséquence, la relation entre la vitesse de la lumière et la > > vitesse des corps est simple : > > La vitesse de la lumière est la vitesse maximale. > > Toute vitesse est une fraction (un rapport, un pourcentage) de la > > vitesse maximale, une fraction, une proportionalité de la vitesse de > > la lumière. > > Par exemple : il est fort probable que la vitesse du Soleil soit égale > > à 1/60 de la vitesse de la lumière. > > ============== > > > ========================= > > lang=en > > The text of Ian Parker : > > Look experiments have been performed where light passes a rotating > > disc. If there was even a modicum of truth in this light would travel > > at a different speed near a rotating object. > > No, as we have said time after time what we are seeing is an organized > > disinformation campaign. Facts are irrelevant. > > - Ian Parker > > Regardez expériences ont été effectuées où la lumière passe à un > > disque tournant. Si il y avait même un minimum de vérité dans vos > > theories, cette lumière voyage à une vitesse différente à proximité > > d'un objet en rotation. > > Non, comme nous l'avons dit maintes fois ce que nous voyons est > > organisé une campagne de désinformation. Les faits ne sont pas > > pertinentes. > > ======================== > > On 17 juil, 13:23, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 17 Jul, 02:59, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 14, 6:26 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote: > > > > > > YanickToutainwrote: > > > > > > [snip rest of crap] > > > > > > > Michelson and Morley and Miller were wrong about that: They ignored > > > > > > the motion of the Sun. > > > > > >   1) Michelson-Morley, 1887, no aether to differential 10^(-8) > > > > > >   2) 2002, no aether to differential 1.7x10^(-15), > > > > > > Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002) > > > > > >   3) 2007, no aether to differential 10^(-16), > > > > > >http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031 > > > > > Phys. Rev. Lett. 99 050401 (2007) > > > > > > Two simultaneous interferometers ==> over a year's observation <==: > > > > > Optical in Berlin, Germany at 52°31'N 13°20'E and microwave in Perth, > > > > > Australia at 31°53'S 115°53E. An aether background could never be at > > > > > rest relative to both of them.  No vacuum dispersion, no vacuum > > > > > dichroism. > > > > > >   4) Fucking imbecile. > > > > > > -- > > > > > Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ > > > > >  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 > > > > > Dear Uncle Al:  The ether flow at the Earth's surface is straight > > > > down. That's what causes the force of gravity.  Interferometer > > > > experiments expecting to detect ether that is just waiting in Earth's > > > > path, don't take into account that ether rotates WITH the Earth and > > > > flows straight down.  At higher distances the ether flow is at an > > > > angle.  Think of this like looking at storm systems on Earth. > > > > Understanding ether flow is really like understanding weather > > > > systems.  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text - > > > > Look experiments have been performed where light passes a rotating > > > disc. If there was even a modicum of truth in this light would travel > > > at a different speed near a rotating object. > > > > No, as we have said time after time what we are seeing is an organized > > > disinformation campaign. Facts are irrelevant. > > > >  - Ian Parker > > > > Regardez expériences ont été effectuées où la lumière passe à un > > > disque tournant. Si il y avait même un minimum de vérité dans vos > > > theories, cette lumière voyage à une vitesse différente à proximité > > > d'un objet en rotation. > > > > Non, comme nous l'avons dit maintes fois ce que nous voyons est > > > organisé une campagne de désinformation. Les faits ne sont pas > > > pertinentes.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - > > > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - > > > Bonjour > > > I don't understand- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Dear Yanick:  If you don't understand, you have lots of company on > this news group.  I've disproved SR and GR.  To understand more, read > the following links.  — NoEinstein — > > Where Angels Fear to Fallhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/1e3e4... > Cleaning Away Einstein’s Mishmashhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847... > Dropping Einstein Like a Stonehttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/989e1...- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - Dear Mr NoEinstein I have take of a copy (I am in a cyberspace) of your 3 links on my USB key I will read it (after translation) at home. Thank you. quote: "you have lots of company on this news group." Do you accept Newton's vacuum space and asbsolute speed ? Are you newtonist ? Who is newtonist here, in this newsgroup ? Yanick Toutain
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Subject: Re: Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de désinformation contre Newton Re: Answers to Mr. Ben : Michelson's mirrors Re: How to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment without SR?
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:45:22 -0700 (PDT)
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