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Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de désinformation contre Newton Re: Answers to Mr. Ben : Michelson's mirr...

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From: Yanick Toutain
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:25
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Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de
désinformation contre Newton
Mr. Ian Parker

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I do not understand with whom your answer is addressed.
You answer me or you address to another interlocutor ?
For my part, as for the "misinformation campaign" , the only one that
I know is the misinformation campaign against the true theses of Isaac
Newton:
All occurs in the vacuum.
All is objective.
Speeds are objective.
It is the beginning of its " Principia".

Consequently, the relation between speed of light and the speed of the
bodies is simple:
Speed of light is the maximum speed.
Any speed is a fraction (a ratio, a percentage) of the maximum speed,
a fraction, a proportionality of the speed of light.
For example: it is extremely probable which the speed of the sun is
equal to 1/60 speed of light.
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Je ne comprends pas à qui votre réponse est adressée.
Est-ce que vous me répondez vous ou bien est-ce que vous vous adressez
à un autre interlocuteur ?
Pour ma part, quant à la "campagne de désinformation", la seule que je
connaisse est la campagne de désinformation contre les véritables
thèses de Isaac Newton :
Tout se passe dans le vide.
Tout est objectif.
Les vitesses sont objectives.
C'est le début de ses "Principia".

En conséquence, la relation entre la vitesse de la lumière et la
vitesse des corps est simple :
La vitesse de la lumière est la vitesse maximale.
Toute vitesse est une fraction (un rapport, un pourcentage) de la
vitesse maximale, une fraction, une proportionalité de la vitesse de
la lumière.
Par exemple : il est fort probable que la vitesse du Soleil soit égale
à 1/60 de la vitesse de la lumière.
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The text of Ian Parker :
Look experiments have been performed where light passes a rotating
disc. If there was even a modicum of truth in this light would travel
at a different speed near a rotating object.
No, as we have said time after time what we are seeing is an organized
disinformation campaign. Facts are irrelevant.
- Ian Parker
Regardez expériences ont été effectuées où la lumière passe à un
disque tournant. Si il y avait même un minimum de vérité dans vos
theories, cette lumière voyage à une vitesse différente à proximité
d'un objet en rotation.
Non, comme nous l'avons dit maintes fois ce que nous voyons est
organisé une campagne de désinformation. Les faits ne sont pas
pertinentes.
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On 17 juil, 13:23, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17 Jul, 02:59, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 14, 6:26 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
>
> > > Yanick Toutain wrote:
>
> > > [snip rest of crap]
>
> > > > Michelson and Morley and Miller were wrong about that: They ignored
> > > > the motion of the Sun.
>
> > >    1) Michelson-Morley, 1887, no aether to differential 10^(-8)
>
> > >    2) 2002, no aether to differential 1.7x10^(-15),
>
> > > Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002)
>
> > >    3) 2007, no aether to differential 10^(-16),
>
> > >http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031
> > > Phys. Rev. Lett. 99 050401 (2007)
>
> > > Two simultaneous interferometers ==> over a year's observation <==:
> > > Optical in Berlin, Germany at 52°31'N 13°20'E and microwave in Perth,
> > > Australia at 31°53'S 115°53E. An aether background could never be at
> > > rest relative to both of them.  No vacuum dispersion, no vacuum
> > > dichroism.
>
> > >    4) Fucking imbecile.
>
> > > --
> > > Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
> > >  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
>
> > Dear Uncle Al:  The ether flow at the Earth's surface is straight
> > down. That's what causes the force of gravity.  Interferometer
> > experiments expecting to detect ether that is just waiting in Earth's
> > path, don't take into account that ether rotates WITH the Earth and
> > flows straight down.  At higher distances the ether flow is at an
> > angle.  Think of this like looking at storm systems on Earth.
> > Understanding ether flow is really like understanding weather
> > systems.  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text -
>
> Look experiments have been performed where light passes a rotating
> disc. If there was even a modicum of truth in this light would travel
> at a different speed near a rotating object.
>
> No, as we have said time after time what we are seeing is an organized
> disinformation campaign. Facts are irrelevant.
>
>   - Ian Parker
>
> Regardez expériences ont été effectuées où la lumière passe à un
> disque tournant. Si il y avait même un minimum de vérité dans vos
> theories, cette lumière voyage à une vitesse différente à proximité
> d'un objet en rotation.
>
> Non, comme nous l'avons dit maintes fois ce que nous voyons est
> organisé une campagne de désinformation. Les faits ne sont pas
> pertinentes.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -
>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -

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Subject: Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de désinformation contre Newton  Re: Answers to Mr. Ben : Michelson's mirrors Re: How to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment without SR?
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