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Article #15800Re: Looking for physics where C or the speed of light is held to be 1
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:17
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:17
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On Jun 21, 3:37Β pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in sci.physics: > The Ghost In The Machine wrote: > > > C is never unity. Β One can of course choose various units > > such as light-seconds per second, where the numeric portion > > of c is 1, but that's not unity, it's 1 light-second per > > second in this case, as c is a speed. > > This is not true. In modern physics we often use units in which c=1. > That is indeed 1, a simple real number without any units attached. > Distances are measured in seconds (not light-seconds), as are durations. > The choice of units is ARBITRARY, and one is free to do this. > > When measuring a distance in such units, a light beam (in vacuum) and > clock are required (no ruler is used). Nothing wrong with that, it's > just different from what you happen to be used to. > > The ISO redefinition of the meter in 1983 made it a secondary unit, not > a primary one... and established once and for all the validity of Einstein 1905 false light postulate, according to Superior Brother Steve Carlip: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/speed_of_light.html Superior Brother Steve Carlip: "Is c, the speed of light in vacuum, constant? At the 1983 Conference Generale des Poids et Mesures, the following SI (Systeme International) definition of the metre was adopted: The metre is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second. This defines the speed of light in vacuum to be exactly 299,792,458 m/s. This provides a very short answer to the question "Is c constant": Yes, c is constant by definition!" Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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