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On Sep 17, 9:33 am, "Bill Hobba" <rubb...@junk.com> wrote in
sci.physics:
> "Tom Roberts" <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:%knHi.3122$ZA5.1206@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> > Alen wrote:
> >> On Sep 16, 1:55 pm, "BillHobba" <rubb...@junk.com> wrote:
> >>> See the following ancient but IMHO still excellent
> >>> post byTom
> >>>Roberts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/a1b1aa766a22394b?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1
>
> > I wrote that more than 15 years ago, when I was just beginning to become
> > re-interested in physics after a hiatus of many years. I had A LOT to
> > learn at that time, and I cringe a bit wheneverBillposts a reference to
> > it. While it displays the basic idea, its attempt at rigor fails. It was
> > indeed based on "dimly remembered ideas from graduate school" (at the time
> > ~20 years earlier, so they must have stuck pretty well but not perfectly
> > (:-)).
>
> Trouble is Tom, there is nothing else as good as it around.  Every time I
> see someone babbling on about the constancy of the speed of light it is the
> best rebuttal I know.  I will try to limit my links to it.

Hobba Hobba you are wrong. 15 years ago Master Tom Roberts was still
an enthusiastic zombie applying for a Government grant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w

http://guardian.curtin.edu.au/cga/art/tv.html
Tom Roberts (15 years ago): "Well sir, I have a silly walk and I'd
like to obtain a Government grant to help me develop it....I think
that with Government backing I could make it very silly."

So with Government backing in 2006 Master Tom Roberts produced this:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/8034dc146100e32c?
Master Tom Roberts: IOW: if it is ultimately discovered that the
photon has a nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the
invariant speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but
both Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their
domains of applicability would be reduced).

Mike: If c varies, it is not Einstein's SR, [...]

Master Tom Roberts: Sure it is. It's just that a different set of
postulates are used to derive the same set of theorems. The
interpretations, of course, are unchanged. Same theorems and same
interpretations => same theory. IOW: physics is not locked in a time
warp at 1905.

So Hobba Hobba always refer to Master Tom Roberts's 2006 great
discovery and Master Tom Roberts will be happy.

Pentcho Valev