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Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:42
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On 31 July, 10:48, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > On 30 July, 19:41, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >>>>> Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the
> >>>>> following question:
> >>>>> Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911
> >>>>> equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a
> >>>>> gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation c'=c
> >>>>> +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light
> >>>>> source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the
> >>>>> observer?
> >>>>> Pentcho Valev
> >>>>    You might want to correct your expression, Pentcho.... the frequency
> >>>>    shift of gh/c^2 is just that, not a shift in the speed of light c,
> >>>>    therefore,
> >>>>         delta f / f = gh/c^2 , or
> >>>>         f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
> >>> Bravo Wormley!
> >>> Pentcho Valev
> >>  Now I don't want you to get this wrong again! OK?
>
> > Wormley Wormley that is not the end of the story. Now you should
> > combine your equation
>
> > f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
>
> > and the textbook equation
>
> > frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> > Master Tom Roberts often does so and obtains....yes he obtains
> > Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2). Then Master Tom Roberts
> > sticks his head in the sand, exposes other parts of his body and
> > starts shouting, mouth full of sand:
>
> > Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
> > Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!....etc.
>
> > Of course, Master Tom Roberts does not expect YOU to do the same. No
> > zombie in Einstein criminal cult is allowed to say anything like
> > "Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong!". Zombies are
> > only allowed to destroy heretics, sing "Divine Einstein" and go into
> > convulsions while singing.
>
> > Pentcho Valev
>
>    Lambda_new = Lambda_orig (1-gh/c^2)
>
>  Were you expecting something else, Pentcho?

No of course. On seeing this last result of yours, Master Tom Roberts
will start crying. He will lose any hope. Zombies will destroy
Einstein criminal cult in the end.

Pentcho Valev
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Subject: Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:42:41 -0700
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